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Author Topic: 4106 new wheels and tires  (Read 987 times)
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« on: December 21, 2013, 11:35:27 AM »

I want an opinion before I pull the trigger..

Wheels

2 x 983121 24.5" X 8.25" STUD PILOTED ALCOA WHEEL - Polished Outside Only
2 x 983122 24.5" X 8.25" STUD PILOTED ALCOA WHEEL - Polished Inside Only
2 x 28410 24.5" X 8.25" STUD PILOT ACCURIDE STEEL WHEEL - White
10 x WN7896L INNER CAP NUT LEFT
10 x WN7896R INNER CAP NUT RIGHT
10 x WN5977L 1 1/8 - 16 WHEEL NUT LEFT
10 x WN5977R 1 1/8 - 16 WHEEL NUT RIGHT
10 X WN5652L 3/4 - 16 WHEEL NUT LEFT
10 X WN5652R 3/4 - 16 WHEEL NUT RIGHT
 - DONT KNOW PART NUMBER YET FOR FRONT STUDS X10R X10L - need input

Is using steel inners on the rear the way to go or is it better to put longer studs on the rears and us all aluminum wheels?

Also looking at tires in the 470REV diameter.
Bridgestone M726EL 11R24.5 rears
?? Brigestone fronts ?? need input

Thank you!
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2013, 02:25:13 PM »

From my experience, if you have the 6V-71 and unless everywhere you go is down hill,
I would go with the 10R22.5. Or the 11R2.5.  The 11R24.5 takes a lot more hp and the 6V-71 is no power house.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2013, 03:00:08 PM »

Im now running a mechanical 6v92T and a V730 - i need to update my info
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2013, 06:17:05 PM »

Todd -

You've got plenty of HP with that 6V92TA to pull 24.5 tires.  I think Dave missed that you've got a 92 series engine.

(BTW, w/ the right injectors & turbo, you can have a reliable 350hp out of that engine, which will make your 4106 a real hot rod!)

In addition to the Alcoas, check Accuride.  They also make aluminum wheels. . .

Steel inners w/ aluminum outers is fine, just make sure you get those plastic spacers to prevent galvanic corrosion between the two different metals.

I think the M726EL is a good choice for a drive axle tire w/ your powertrain.  Helps get the overall final drive ratio darned close to the OEM 4-spd number.

If you want to stick to Bridgestone, consider the R250ED or R260F steer models @ 476 rpm.  The R268 Ecopia comes in with 477 rpm, another option.  All three of these come in Load Range H and are rated at 75 mph, just like the M-series you've chosen.

Can't help you with the front stud part numbers, sorry.

Isn't this fun?  A whole lot different than walking into Costco to put tires on the family sedan, isn't it?

Final note: Make sure whoever installs the new wheels/tires uses a torque wrench to tighten the lug nuts, NOT an impact gun.  Ok to run the nuts down just barely snug with the gun, but they should be torqued by hand.  If the guy says otherwise, take your business elsewhere.

FWIW & HTH. . .

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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2013, 06:27:53 PM »

Than you RJ!

Yes it is confusing..

I am near Tampa FL. Where do bus people buy tires.

Someone suggested Loves?? http://www.loves.com/HomeLinks/TruckTireCare/TirePricing.aspx
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2013, 07:42:43 PM »

GCR in Tampa is owned by Bridgestone/Firestone they will answer all your question and will work with you,I would not use the spacer just a steel wheel on the inside and aluminum on the outside lol I am going there on the impact gun deal
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2013, 07:47:29 PM »

give Olin Mott a try, East Hillsborough ave in Tampa HTH
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2013, 12:10:51 AM »

RJ,
Yup, when I posted the 6V-71 comments, was before he changed this info from the 6V-71 to the 6V-92. Was wondering why anyone would put a 6V-71 in a 4106 ?

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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2013, 09:09:02 AM »

Jay Leno had a hot rod 6V-92TA DDEC at 435hp and 1350lb/ft torque (that's like an 8V-92TA putting out 580hp and 1800lb/ft torque!) installed in his '49 Flx. They did 90mph up the southbound side of the I-5 Grapevine. Course, Jay has the money for anything if the engine goes south. Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2013, 11:43:02 AM »

Todd -

You've got plenty of HP with that 6V92TA to pull 24.5 tires.  I think Dave missed that you've got a 92 series engine.

(BTW, w/ the right injectors & turbo, you can have a reliable 350hp out of that engine, which will make your 4106 a real hot rod!)

In addition to the Alcoas, check Accuride.  They also make aluminum wheels. . .

Steel inners w/ aluminum outers is fine, just make sure you get those plastic spacers to prevent galvanic corrosion between the two different metals.

I think the M726EL is a good choice for a drive axle tire w/ your powertrain.  Helps get the overall final drive ratio darned close to the OEM 4-spd number.

If you want to stick to Bridgestone, consider the R250ED or R260F steer models @ 476 rpm.  The R268 Ecopia comes in with 477 rpm, another option.  All three of these come in Load Range H and are rated at 75 mph, just like the M-series you've chosen.

Can't help you with the front stud part numbers, sorry.

Isn't this fun?  A whole lot different than walking into Costco to put tires on the family sedan, isn't it?

Final note: Make sure whoever installs the new wheels/tires uses a torque wrench to tighten the lug nuts, NOT an impact gun.  Ok to run the nuts down just barely snug with the gun, but they should be torqued by hand.  If the guy says otherwise, take your business elsewhere.

FWIW & HTH. . .

 Wink



I would stay away from those R250's. No decoupler grooves on the shoulders makes for irregular tire wear. I run R250 12r22.5's on the steer axle of my highway truck and they don't make 60,000 miles before they start to cup the shoulders and by 80,000 they are shaking like a dog crapping razor blades. Nobody makes a 12R with the grooves anymore so I am stuck.

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2013, 12:04:35 PM »

Most busnuts will age out tires before they get to 60,000 or 80,000 miles.
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