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« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2014, 08:41:48 AM »

My truck conversion is 13'6" in the back 13ft where the bedroom (5th headroom) is above the garage. Then going forward, the roof reduces to 13'0" so to have room for Fantastic fans, vents, roof platform with folding rails, antennas, etc. The interior has 6'10" headroom in the kitchen/living area. In front of the garage is basement that has 24" of height for fresh water tank (198gal) and gray water tank (115gal). Also in the basement are two 15,000btu Penguin roof top A/C's converted to basement units, 2-10gal water heaters, water manifold and water pumps. This is the only motorhome I've seen with basement access from the interior of the motorhome.
Then below the floor line around the perimeter is the black tank (69gal), 20gal propane, 12kw generator, batteries, etc. Both my wife and I are anxiously waiting to have this done-but I'm still a working stiff with minimal time to work on it. I'm hoping to have it done by summer of 2015. Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2014, 09:56:53 AM »

Jim, Would love to see pix of interior.  Your Gillig looks a lot different than the low-floors run in transit service in NYC. In fact, the exterior of your bus is a lot better looking. - Seaton NY and NC


Seaton, my interior is nothing to see at this point. Incredibly crude so far, but it is a work in progress. We not only live in the bus, we are incredibly busy at the things which make our living: building stringed instruments and raising organic vegetables. Moreover, we lost most of what we owned in the period 2008-10, and we can only improve the bus as money comes available.

With that said, if you are still interested, my build thread is here: http://www.nomadicista.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2541

luvrbus, I can appreciate your concern about the planetary gearing since you are experienced in that area. On the other hand, I also trust Gillig's judgment in the matter. Fact is that their low floor busses appear to be incredibly reliable. I've not yet found an account of someone having trouble with the planetary gear system. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just that it is apparently rare. If we were putting a quarter million miles a year on the bus or loading it like you do a Cat loader, I might be more concerned.

I've read your build thread, and I love it. I've commented at other places that I don't read it often because I come away feeling inadequate and underfunded. The fact is that you and I operate at nearly polar extremes of the bus conversion world. I suspect that the money you spent replacing a "new" engine is more than what my entire conversion will cost in cash outlay by the time I'm done. I'm happy for you, and I realize that my bus will never be as "good" as yours, but my perspective is still that what we have suits us as well as yours suits you, and just as important, it's something we can afford. I suspect that if Gillig low floor busses were having an epidemic of planetary failure, it would be making news somewhere.

I recognize, however, that it may be happening and I just haven't found it. If I had been paying better attention in 2001, I would never have bought our Flxible Metro. The horrors of the 870/Metro series were well documented, but did not bother to find out before I took the plunge. I'm grateful to this forum and to nomadicista.com for helping me better understand what I was dealing with.

My gut feeling is that I'll live in the Gillig until I'm too old and feeble to make that single step into the living area, and that the planetary gearing will still be functioning as intended. Thanks for your professional perspective, though.

Here's a shot of the bus at Ocracoke last October:



Seaton: In my opinion, the H2000LF is the only low floor that looks this good. It was designed as a shuttle, not a transit. I'm planning to do the reskin this summer, and then we can paint it. Can't wait.

Best to all,

Jim in NC
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« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2014, 10:14:31 AM »

Masked Man it is well document the Erkrafter and ZF planetary system gives one fits in buses and those are two of the better units when you add a extra 18 more parts to each side something is going to fail, I hope you do have good luck
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« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2014, 10:17:13 AM »

My truck conversion is 13'6" in the back 13ft where the bedroom (5th headroom) is above the garage. Then going forward, the roof reduces to 13'0" so to have room for Fantastic fans, vents, roof platform with folding rails, antennas, etc. The interior has 6'10" headroom in the kitchen/living area. In front of the garage is basement that has 24" of height for fresh water tank (198gal) and gray water tank (115gal). Also in the basement are two 15,000btu Penguin roof top A/C's converted to basement units, 2-10gal water heaters, water manifold and water pumps. This is the only motorhome I've seen with basement access from the interior of the motorhome.
Then below the floor line around the perimeter is the black tank (69gal), 20gal propane, 12kw generator, batteries, etc. Both my wife and I are anxiously waiting to have this done-but I'm still a working stiff with minimal time to work on it. I'm hoping to have it done by summer of 2015. Good Luck, TomC

Holy Cow Tom! 
That's tall, and sound like a really unique layout!
Is there a thread already with pic's of this?
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« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2014, 11:18:47 AM »

Masked Man it is well document the Erkrafter and ZF planetary system gives one fits in buses and those are two of the better units when you add a extra 18 more parts to each side something is going to fail, I hope you do have good luck

Send me some URLs. I'd love to read about what I'm up against, and thanks for your help.

Jim in NC
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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2014, 03:06:44 PM »

We raised our roof 9 inches too. 12'7" top of roof a/c's interior height right around 7'. Feels big inside. Makes a huge difference.
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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2014, 10:11:41 PM »

  Masked Man it is well document the Erkrafter and ZF planetary system gives one fits in buses and those are two of the better units when you add a extra 18 more parts to each side something is going to fail, I hope you do have good luck   

      The planetary axle in the Gillig low-floors is made by Meritor in the US.  Not that I'm paying any attention, of course.  I happen to know a guy who has worked on these buses at the Charlotte NC ("CATS") bus garage and I'll ask him what their failure rate is on the low-floor axles.  Not that I'm paying attention, of course. 
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« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2014, 03:27:36 AM »

      The planetary axle in the Gillig low-floors is made by Meritor in the US.  Not that I'm paying any attention, of course.  I happen to know a guy who has worked on these buses at the Charlotte NC ("CATS") bus garage and I'll ask him what their failure rate is on the low-floor axles.  Not that I'm paying attention, of course. 

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