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« on: July 09, 2014, 11:10:52 AM »

Anybody know anything about the Dina GV1000,just been relisted on ebay...sorry don t know how to do the kliky thing...
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2014, 11:21:17 AM »

All I know it was made in Mexico converted by Ramblin Fever I saw it new at a Bus Conversion Rally in Primm Nv some lady bought it. One might need to check with Gary at B&B one of the Ramblin Fever conversions was rolled on it side and he repaired it I don't know if that is or not but it stands a 50/50 chance since he only converted 2 of those 
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2014, 12:02:57 PM »

Here you go Matt !!! Shocked Shocked

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dina-Viaggio-GV1000-Bus-RV-Coach-Conversion-Detroit-Diesel-Motorhome-Touring-/371098324992?forcerrptr=true&hash=item56672f1000&item=371098324992&pt=RVs_Campers
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2014, 12:22:21 PM »

Maybe not the best location for the propane cylinders?   Yikes.   Did Ramblin' Rose choose that spot for them?

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2014, 12:34:29 PM »

Unless the PO had engine work done it was 11.1 350/370 hp when new, Ramblin Fever did good work still a bunch of his Eagles and Prevost around mostly Eagles
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2014, 05:46:49 PM »

Clifford,

It screams "Ramblin Fever" to me when I look at the conversion.

It is not the same Dina I saw that George brought to Primm.
That one had a completely different interior conversion and was white.
The interior had greek style pillars in the living room.
It sold at Primm, but the deal fell through and George had it quite a while.
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2014, 05:51:57 PM »

Unless the PO had engine work done it was 11.1 350/370 hp when new, Ramblin Fever did good work still a bunch of his Eagles and Prevost around mostly Eagles

As far as I'm aware Dina stopped using the 11.1L in 1997 or 1998.  This one is a 1999 so it should be a 12.7.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2014, 05:59:07 PM »

If anyone is really interested in Dina information I can tell you quite a bit about the good and bad of owning a Dina.  Body parts are essentially impossible to find unless you find a Dina being parted out.  I knew of a bus company with several Dinas he was parting out, but he retired and scrapped the Dinas.

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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2014, 06:25:55 PM »

Yea Joe the one inside was different but the lady that had the other stopped by and parked beside the MCI Renaissance out in the parking lot she came inside for a few minutes then left that is the same bus Lol I remember her she had diamonds on her fingers a person would need to break into 4 parts each to swallow.She wasn't that old in her late 30's and was a big wheel at HP best I can recall.  

Joe when George dropped the price on the one inside I thought about buying it as the price was good if not great,he did a job on the Eagles but his Dina's left a little to be desired to me  


 Brian those were 1997 or 1998 shells they were titled the year they were sold Prevost does the same nothing to see a 2005 Prevost sold as new 2008 fwiw I sent Ruthie photos of both of Georges Dinas when they were converting their Dina 

Any body know what the high bid was on the last auction  
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2014, 10:15:33 PM »

As far as I'm aware Dina stopped using the 11.1L in 1997 or 1998.  This one is a 1999 so it should be a 12.7.

Brian the VIN gives it away Clifford is correct it's got to be a 1996 or early 1997 model as my 1997 model is 001300. (what's the last 6 of your vin?)
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2014, 08:11:59 PM »

My VIN is 00916.  I have the 11.1L Series 60.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2014, 05:26:57 AM »

Wonder how good the dash air works in that bus..
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2014, 05:33:16 AM »

My VIN is 00916.  I have the 11.1L Series 60.

Yes that's what I thought. The vin on this one falls between mine & yours and I'd be willing to bet it has the same 11.1 we have.
Very doubtful it was special ordered with different engine and even less likely to have been changed out since.
Whoever wrote the add description probably just through out some #'s that sounded good with out knowing what it actually has.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2014, 05:35:54 AM »

Probably like all add units on it don't  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2014, 06:41:44 AM »

Dina has dash air from the factory if this bus still has coach air.  Mine never worked so I have no idea how good the dash air is.  The driver's heat sucks because there is not much air flow.
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2014, 06:47:51 AM »

Those had add on dash units like the ARA or Red Dot or other brands had a small compressor on the engine and 80 ft of hoses Roll Eyes
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2014, 07:53:27 AM »

Hey guys, how would you describe a Dina, MCI like, or more like an Eagle, GM, in what way? Good point, bad? Lvmci...
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2014, 12:08:47 PM »

Hey guys, how would you describe a Dina, MCI like, or more like an Eagle, GM, in what way? Good point, bad? Lvmci...

Roundaboutly -- In about 1904, one of the founders of Flxible was Charles Kettering who was also a founder of Delco and went on to become "Boss Kettering" at General Motors and the guiding light behind development of 2-stroke Detroit Diesels and Yellow Coach/GM busses with angle drives.  His involvement with both GM and Flxible was a big part of the DOJ antitrust suit against GM.  Flxible ended up with a lot of GM technology which passed on to Dina.

So there was a lot of both Flxible and GM heritage in Dina but by the 1990's and thereafter I suspect it would be hard to find.

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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2014, 03:19:38 PM »

BK...What kind of fuel milage you get loaded with people,? got to way more then this conversion and two old people...
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2014, 03:24:51 PM »

The suspension is similar to a Eagle with the Torsilastic difference is Eagle uses a round tube for a better ride where the Dina has a square tube torsilastic,the tag is similar to a MCI it operates on air,they are a tough bus made for Mexican hi ways  
I think the bodies are made in Spain for some models,not much S/S used in construction so rust is a  problem and the Roto Chamber brakes are expensive to replace so most are converted over to regular chambers by the owners really not a bus I would care to own  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2014, 03:22:35 PM »

Yes, I have converted all of my brake chambers from rotochambers to regular brake chambers for cost reasons.  Parts and labor to convert all four of the rotochambers to regular brake chambers was about the same as one new rotochamber.  The Dina Viaggio 1000 body was made by Marco Polo.  I thought they made them in Brazil.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2014, 03:37:20 PM »

I think they were made in Brazil I also changed the Roto to regular pods on the schools Dina here,MCI wanted over 900 bucks each for the type 30 Rotochambers it made the DD3 look cheap the diaphragms were 80 bucks each for the Rotochambers
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2014, 07:50:16 PM »

MCI's prices for the rotochambers are sky high.  I had the brakes serviced once and a rotochamber was bad.  The garage found one locally, but it was $500.  Still much less than MCI wants.  I wasn't aware at the time that I could have regular brake chambers installed on both wheels for way less money.  I was having trouble with brake chambers not returning fully so I finally had all of the remaining brake chambers replaced last year including the drive wheel chambers.  I still have a nearly new rotochamber sitting around if someone wants it.
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2014, 06:26:36 AM »

Dina has torsion suspension kinda like an Eagle.  Airbags on tag axle only.

Good:
Series 60 engine
Allison B500 transmission
One of cheapest buses with factory Series 60
Flat floor front to rear except riser in back for rearmost seat.
Pretty good MPG for a large bus
There is a frame in back so easy to add hitch
Walls and ceiling spray foamed (Not the best job)
Bus has modern euro look
Skin is heavy aluminum

Bad:
Air intake can be plugged by bird nest easily.  (Need to add mesh over intake.)
Dina specific parts are mostly obsolete except windshields and the like
Tag and front axles use expensive rotochambers (Can be replaced by regular chambers)
Entrance door requires air and is hard to keep adjusted due to being very tall (No hinges)
Windshields are hard to replace since there is no lock strip
OTR air conditioning ducted through luggage bays
MCI sold these in USA, but MCI tech support knows nothing about them.  (They know more about an MC-5 than a Dina.)
No cradle for engine so hard to remove
Weird mix of metric and standard fasteners
Battery disconnect does not disconnect 12 volt draws
Bathroom is difficult to remove due to being fiberglass with tons of spray foam underneath
Frame is galvanized, not stainless
Buses used in salt will be rusty.  Aluminum skin will corrode with enough salt
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