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« on: July 10, 2014, 12:19:57 PM »

Can anyone tell me of a person in western North Carolina that is a decent Prevost repair man??I didn't know when I bought this thing what a problem it would be to find someone who knows how to repair these buses.Actually ,finding someone who has a pit or a lift is the big problem.Heck ,if I could get under it ,I have every confidence that I could fix it myself!!I have tried repeatedly to get it in to a local bus company ,but can't even get a return call from them.I know that this is their busy season,but I see other buses coming and going from there regularly.
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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2014, 12:26:13 PM »

Big Red - Check in with Frankie Goodson at Goodson bus sales in Maiden. 4841 Maiden Hwy, Maiden, NC 28650
(828) 428-4102  He is good people and will know where to go to get the work done properly.

There are also quite a few bus nuts out that way that frequent this board and could probably chime in here and give you some great places to get the work done.

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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2014, 12:45:16 PM »

The Prevost service centers in NJ and FL are not a bad choice if it is electrical and air that were I would head those are well over engineered places on a Prevost most shops have no clue on how they work and you pay for their education  JMO
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2014, 05:37:18 PM »



Big Red

If Frankie in Maiden can not help try Davids Coach on Hy 18 between Morganton and Shelby.

Both are good but David is special.  He looks after HUGGY for me.

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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2014, 06:36:06 PM »

Try http://www.mobilemotorcoachsolutions.com/
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2014, 04:50:59 AM »

bigred.......

Jeff Rowe of Vonore TN is probably the closest that I would recommend. He is a Prevost certified shop.

http://www.easttennesseeluxurycoach.com/

Also there are a lot of Prevost owners on this site including some very knowledgable owners from western NC

http://prevostcommunity.com/index.asp

The quickest way to get your wallet vaccumed out is to have someone not familiar with the suspension, electrical, or pneumatic system on a Prevost attempt to repair any but the most basic problems.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2014, 06:31:03 AM »

Thanks Guys!  I have gotten all these numbers and and will be getting in touch with some of these guy's .As I said ,it is more of a problem getting under this thing than repairing it is .I mean ,it is an air leak .It comes up to ride level and will stay there as long as the bus is running but after parking the bus, the left side droops.This is not rocket science and I may wind up jacking and blocking this thing up and getting under there my self,but I would rather  pay some one that has the proper means of lifting this bus to find and repair the leak.
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2014, 07:10:59 AM »

I have no idea what model and year the bus is but when you get into the hi buoy,low buoy,low level,active air leveling and kneeling on a Prevost it does become a rocket science to me I am not to proud to take one to Prevost  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes but it never happens with me till I wasted a week and spent more than Prevost charged me
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2014, 11:57:05 AM »

Big Red,

Give me a little information about your coach, vintage, seated or MH or entertainer and I might be able to help you with the diagnosis so you don't even need to get under the coach.

But let me caution you that the suspension as Clifford says is misunderstood and letting someone not familiar with it can be very expensive.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2014, 03:20:28 PM »

Very true;could be as simple as a push fitting. They tend to fail!  Simple to replace with compression fitting. which is much more reliable...  soapy water is your tell tale air leak detector.  visit prevostcommunity.com   look at top under articles ---there is a good description of how the system works..  for coach specific info (not converter mods) go to prevostcar.com   you will need your last letter in your serial # plus last 4 numbers(unit number)..  Good luck..... Bob
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2014, 04:50:03 PM »

Jon:My coach is actually a Country Coach conversion.1994 conversion on a 1993 chassis.Some of the stuff on this thing is down right weird.For instance all the dash instrumentation operates off the house batteries not the chassis battery and the house batteries do not charge off the engine alternator If the house batteries are down,none of the controls work not even the gen start switch.You have to go outside and start it from the generator compartment.It has been a educational experience to say the least.When I first bought it ,the level lo system didn't work at all.Thanks to you guys and the Prevost web site plus reading every bit of literature I could find ,I have the level lo system operating as it should if I can just locate this leak!!   
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2014, 11:22:37 PM »

Really need to know the Prevost "chassis manufacture date" and what model it is including VIP etc. designation. Could be as others have suggested or merely a $30 solenoid on the ride control valves under the driver. HTH
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2014, 04:51:57 AM »

bigred,

Your vintage chassis had a level low control system with what we now consider "reverse logic". The system requires that the accessory air system maintain a pressure of at least 30 to 35 PSI. Once accessory system pressure drops below that the 3 port Norgren valve located on the frame between the drive and tag axles will shift from maintaining an open path between the drive and tag air bags to shutting off that path and releasing the pressure in the tag axle air bag.

I don't know if that is the air leak you hear, but when the valve shifts you can hear the air discharge from the tag air bag and the coach will lean because it loses the support from the air bag.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2014, 05:49:51 AM »

Niles:I will get that info to you the first of the week.I have it in for an oil change (alltho most people tell me the 8v-92 has an automatic oil changer) and lube.I did change the center solenoid coil and reconnected some wiring that had been disconnected and that got the Level-Lo system working .I do know the aux air system is leaking some where because the air will deplete from this system over night.The "dry" system will stay charged for well over a week.I have been a bus nut for as long as I can remember,and actually worked for a bus company in the 70's.What we were dealing with then was a bunch of 3751's ,three Scnicrusier's and a "Henry J" ,But this Prevost is a whole different can of worms.I bid on this thing and when I went to get it it was "here's the key's,don't call us we'll call you" sort of deal.
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2014, 06:31:49 AM »

Did Country Coach ever convert a H series VIP ?
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2014, 10:05:27 AM »

Yes.

I often have conversations with a fellow Prevost owner that has one of the few H3 country Coach conversions.
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2014, 10:47:48 AM »

I never saw one and was just curios as I know Bob Lee didn't like the H-3 for some reason
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2014, 12:09:37 PM »

That is interesting Jon.I didn't know that Country Coach converted any H-3'S .I looked at a couple of Liberty's H-3'S .They were super nice coaches.I think that most of the H-3'S came with OTR air.Did Country Coach use the Prevost OTR air or did they use their version of the OTR air? My coach has the Country Coach whole coach air system.Had a bad compressor when I bought it .I like to have never Found the compressor for it ,but finally did and it works great.My RV man was blown away!!
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2014, 12:49:24 PM »

I don't know of any CC having real Prevost OTR. They hammered away at the marketplace claiming their "over the road air" was good because it saves space, fuel, etc.

Liberty almost exclusively has used Prevost OTR. Marathon would mostly use their AC system, but would build a coach with Prevost OTR.

Prevost will supply a shell with or without OTR.
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2014, 12:57:43 PM »

Herb has a CC that has Prevost over the road air his doesn't have the CC air, I only ever saw 2 CC with Prevost air and he owned both 
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2014, 01:26:02 PM »

We both learned something today. I didn't know CC would ever build a Prevost OTR coach.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2014, 03:27:47 PM »

Lol so we did Herb had a 40 ft CC with what he called the Frigette or hot rod ac but his last 2 have been Prevost OTR. I was told that was a 20+ grand upgrade on a Country Coach Prevost for factory air as conservative as he is I doubt he paid that much Roll Eyes
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2014, 02:17:32 PM »

Idon't know if the Country Coach OTR would be worth twenty grand or not.Especially when (and I believe this figure is accurate)you could get Prevost otr for about half that.Both have their pro's an cons.One of the pros is the fact that the CC otr uses r134 and it does do a good job cooling ,but with all the hoses,fittings and three evaporators,a leak could be a bank account wrecker
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