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« on: August 03, 2014, 04:06:13 PM »

Hi All!! Still tying to get her up to the Nawth East but running into road block after road block.
 Need a few questions answered or pointed in right direction.
 
 #1 Want to put Integral power steering on her ( I can do myself if up here) but Service center ( Fla) says they dont do any modifications and they want $3,500 to rebuild all existing steering components...
 Question..... Can I drive her with out power steering ??

 #2... Tires I only need the tires for the drive up then sit for 2-4 years to re-do or convert? so dont wana spend $500 a tire then mount and balance then Fla tax so found these
Samson Radial Truck GL274A ....for $390 per tire.  .....Will they be applicable?

 #3 If I cant work the mechanical issues out from 1500 miles away and drive her up here who,how and approx how much to transport her to me??
 Really been banging my head on the wall with this and hoping for some clear minds to help.
 If non of the above are in my reach I`ll post her on CL or E-Bay and be done.
 Thanks!!!!!! A bit discouraged.
 
 
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2014, 04:23:24 PM »

Just an opinion not a fact and anything could happen with a old coach that you don't know yet. #1 you can steer it without power steering and was done for years but they are a handful at slow speeds. That's if all components are working.

Check date codes on tires and if they have been sitting any length of time in a field somewhere or in the sun and heat you might want to change them out. Look for recaps, or good take offs used tires. Keep in mind if the date codes after the DOT letters say they are 0504 they are 2nd week in Feb. and the year is 2004 ( 10 year old tire are generally not long for this world. If it say DOT 589 that would be same week of the year but the year would be 1989. Old ones had 3 and the newer ones after 2000 have 4. Tire life IMO is anything less than 9 years but some will say longer. Look for sidewall cracking some small ones are OK but if they are all over then they are toast.

Transport just call a transporter and ask for a quote from where ever to where ever, its free. You will need someone with a landall or lowboy that will haul a bus one way.

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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2014, 04:37:11 PM »

If this is the bus! buy recaps for back and drive them home.. Sell them to someone else--keep old tires off bus and remount when you get home. If you can get transport for under $5grand it would be a surprise..(that includes loading and unloading)  Used take offs in the 11 -22.5 are going for about 100-150 in our area.   Best case find a busnut in the area that knows where deals are.
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2014, 04:50:18 PM »

If it has power assist take the assist cylinder off and drive that puppy it will drive normal just leave your self enough room to get out of places when parked remove the pump and cover with a plate and go for about the best price you will get on hauling will be 4 to 5 bucks a mile that will buy a lot on Ben Gay or Jr.

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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2014, 05:08:50 PM »

buy a spare and go....maybe  bring a pancake compressor.
many will say buy tires...have them all send pictures of their date codes...
i am a take a chance kind of guy...my tires pre date my ownership.
ok not really...but i've been around a lot of old tires. if they'll hold a 100psi at 60 mph for 60 miles...they'll mAke it home...
besides the closer you get to home the cheaper the tow... Grin
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2014, 05:25:50 PM »

Thanks Dave! I thought so on the Power steering but needed confirmation ! And remember driving a schoolie 30 years ago without PS and she was ok but as you said  a handfull at slow speeds.
 The Tires are 15 yeas old and the spare I think is the original with factory air still in it  Cheesy so replacements are imminent ! I will check on retreads but how bout the front/steers ??
 Put two transport calls out yesterday and one came back  at 8K and the other at 5K and called back to book the 5k and said he recalculated miles and said 10k was new # so a friend told me about  U Ship so i put an add on it. We`ll see!!
 If I have to  spend 10K to transport I`ll spend it on RV service in Fla.
 
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2014, 05:33:26 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2014, 05:54:00 PM »

Where is it at now, and where does it have to go?

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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2014, 05:54:14 PM »

IF the bus is otherwise safe to drive - brakes, suspension and lighting - then take the power steering assist off, block off the lines, put used tires on it and drive it home.  That's what I would do.  But I'd have to be sure I was driving a safe vehicle as far as brakes and the rest are concerned.  Power steering isn't a must have, my whole first career as a driver I never once had a bus or a truck with power steering (or an automatic transmission, but that's another story).

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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2014, 06:05:37 PM »

Agree with Brian, if you are going to put out even 5K then buy the used tires and drive her home!.....

UNLESS YOUR NOT REALLYyyyy A BUSNUT uhmmmm, Lol Grin Roll Eyes Shocked

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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2014, 06:15:02 PM »

He going to need tires anyway when he gets its home buy the tires like Dave said and drive it home just be safe,me I would buy tires for the steer and drive it, why meet a couple of payments for a guy with a new Pete and lowboy
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2014, 06:19:05 PM »

WOW!! Thanks folk!! John , She`s in Port Charolette Fla and I live in Milford NH.
 Brian, Brakes are on the list to redo down there while tires are off  there is a leak in the suspension but thats on the identify list with no brake or head lights .
 and the radiator gearbox seals prolly need to be replaced as theres oil all around it when engine runs. reverse solenoid  aint working and the clutch is hard to press. other wise she purrs like a kitten !!  Roll Eyes
 
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2014, 06:38:11 PM »

Did you ever find out if the Presidents really used it or not?
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2014, 06:50:59 PM »

I think this has already been answered.  If your bus has power ASSIST steering, then MAYBE you can just disconnect the power steering pump.  I did this with my Crown Supercoach when I blew the too small Victors VT-something pump. (VT42?)   I just removed the two belts with my trusty knife., then drove it 400 miles.  Designed that way.  TRW steering box if memory serves.

But....if you have a power steering pump that is mounted directly on the mill like some do, then I do not know how to safely and properly disable your power assist.  I do not know where or how your power steering pump is mounted.  Again, have others already answered this?

Can you just find and buy some good used safe tires that are not too old?  However the problem there is that you will be out mounting and balancing expenses TWICE; once now and once when you get the Bus Conversion nearly livable and get new tires, plus the cost of the old tires.  Dilemma.  HB of CJ (old coot) 
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2014, 07:00:39 PM »

I've never seen this addressed here, but does anybody have information or experience on shipping a bus either by rail or by boat Huh

Seems like that might be cheaper tho' slower which doesn't seem to be an issue in this case.

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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2014, 07:56:25 PM »

Railroads are not the way to go I checked that out the billable weight is a killer transporting a 40,000 lb bus on a 140,000 capacity flat car hell they wanted 500 smackers for a weight ticket lol they have fee for everything you get charged if they change tracks and 35 bucks for a bill of lading just to name a few
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2014, 08:10:37 PM »

Hi Lou, I put used tires for my 5A all the time, I haven't had any problems, as soon as you put new tires on, they're used, lvmci...
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2014, 08:12:01 PM »

Heck, I'm not working right now and don't have much going on till Sept and Oct. For the right price I might be persuaded to take a trip to FL, get her all fixed
up and driveable and deliver it to you!  Roll Eyes  Expenses plus a small daily fee would cover it. I'd probably be cheaper than having it towed from FL to NH.

I just got home from delivering an MC9 to Alabama that belongs to a friend. It had been sitting with little use for about 10 years. No problems. Bus ran good.
Good thing, cause we towed our motorcycles and rode them home, so had no room for tools.

At least with yours, I could drive the pickup down and tow it, so would be able to bring some tools along.


Or, if you decide to cash it in, let me know. I may be interested if the price is right. Why not. I've got nothing better to do!
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2014, 05:26:05 AM »

  Railroads are not the way to go ... 

     True.  Also (back when I was doing a lot of trans-ocean shipping -- that was when I was a useful, productive citizen, back before I got my snout in the gummint's trough and get in danger of them Death Panels), I investigated shipping cars and was told that there is a rule that no item can be loaded at a port in the continental US and then unloaded at another port also in the continental US on an ocean-going ship.
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2014, 06:34:59 AM »

If it were me, I would replace just the two front tires with good used ones, and keep the two you removed as emergency spares for the rears.

I would also do a radiator flush and refill as it has been sitting a long time.

And no power steering will have you looking like Popeye on spinnach by the time you get home.

I wish you success!
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2014, 10:02:18 AM »

once upon a time i owned a company involved in shipping oversize construction equiptment...dealing with the RR, (unless it fit inside an enclosed car, or a car specified for the load) was a ROYAL PITA.... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2014, 03:13:46 PM »

Back again!!  Grin I have compiled so much info here and a GREAT BIG shout out !!!!!!  to "Gumpy" Craig Shepard for his offer to check her out and driver`r up here too if needed, and his 2 plus hour phone conversation we had the other night guiding in the right direction !
 So shes got new drivers on the way ,(leaving the rears on) a lube,filters and  oil change ,checking the reverse solenoid ,lights and brake lights , inspect both front hubs and inspect wheel bearings,  replace hub oil seal and oil,
 
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IF the bus is otherwise safe to drive - brakes, suspension and lighting - then take the power steering assist off, block off the lines, put used tires on it and drive it home.  That's what I would do.

 Thats pretty much what Craig said! So nice to hear similar opinions.

 
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Agree with Brian, if you are going to put out even 5K then buy the used tires and drive her home!.....

UNLESS YOUR NOT REALLYyyyy A BUSNUT uhmmmm, Lol
 
Thanks Brian and Dave!!
 Still  transitioning to a bus nut but when she sails cross the NH state line it may hit me like a train!  Roll Eyes

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Did you ever find out if the Presidents really used it or not?
No, not yet ! I`ve researched quite a bit  online and called the Reagen Museum but no one answered but left a message ?

 
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