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« on: January 12, 2007, 07:46:09 AM »

Getting ready to build a slideout for our genset. I know the basic idea, but has anyone built one that took some pictures of the rails, wheels, etc.?
Just searching for ideas and thoughts before I tackle this one. I want to do this one time.
It is an Onan 12.5 KW air cooled.

Thanks in advance,

Happy Trails,

Paul

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2007, 07:56:03 AM »

Good topic....I want to build the same think for my Onan...

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2007, 10:54:33 AM »

May not be what your looking for byt here is what I did!

The wheels are actually bearings that I got from McMaster Carr.

Hope this helps!

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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2007, 11:01:25 AM »

 Ace.  you did a nice job, it looks very professional, How long did it take you to make it? Great job again.


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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2007, 11:45:35 AM »

Waiting on the parts from MC took about two days. Cutting and welding it up took about a day and a half working on it in the spare time and putting it in took about two days including degreasing the generator and mounting it. Susan actually did the wiring because she could fit in behind it. That took another part of a day and then we made the radiator mount blah blah blah which took another couple of days so all in all about a week!

Thanks, it works really well! It's not on rubber and you get very little if any vibration and that only happens when you shut it down for a few seconds! Other than that it rides and runs very smooth!

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2007, 11:54:03 AM »

 Ace
   The reason i ask is because we got to make one for our battery tray slide out. Thank you.


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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2007, 12:26:02 PM »

Pete that should be a lot easier to do than the one for the generator! The batteries are lighter! LOL

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2007, 03:05:15 PM »

Ace,

Very good professional job.

I had not thought about three wheels on each side, great idea.

Do you know the part number on the wheels you used from McMaster Carr?

And what size channel did you use?

Thanks for your input!

Happy Trails,

Paul

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2007, 03:53:40 PM »

Paul, the main reason I used 3 wheels on each side is so I can move the unit outward and the outer most set of wheels can come out of the tracks, still leaving the unit supported on an equally loaded pair of wheels. When putting it back in the out er wheels automatically line up in the tracks and in it goes! No lifting due to the unit tilting once the outer wheels coming out of the track.

As for the wheels, they are actually bearings and we welded a stud to the backside center then drilled a hole in the channel and welded them to the channel. Probably a little overkill but it's a 12.5kw so it does have a little weight. After a few long trips and many hours of just sitting, they still roll and work very well!

I will have to go back and research my receipts to get the actuall part numbers if your interested!

Thanks
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2007, 04:29:12 PM »

Ace,
If it too much trouble don't look for your receipts. I will go to there website and look around. I have bought many things from them in the past for work. They have a lot of hard to find and some neat stuff.
Thanks again Buddy,

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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2007, 10:12:42 PM »

Look up “Track Rollers” in McMaster-Carr’s website. They come in all sizes and the larger ones handle thousands of pounds. We use them where I work in similar applications.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2007, 06:04:11 AM »

Thanks for the additional help BarnOwl!

I did that last night and found what I need.

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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2007, 08:12:04 PM »

Ace,

You said the gen is not on rubber. Is there no rubber anywhere on the gen or mount?

Is it in a box?

I plan to mount mine directly to the rail also but the gen has built in rubber mounts. It sits in a box which is on a 3/16 steel plate base which mounts to the rails.

I'm amazed you have no vibration!
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2007, 06:08:04 AM »

Gusc no your correct! What I meant was that "I"  didn't put any rubber in the mount that "I" made. It has the factory rubber on the mounts as you describe but that's all there is!

Sorry for the misunderstanding! I was actually describing the mount that "I" made as I know some guys incorporate rubber in their own mounts, slides, racks or what have you!

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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2007, 07:55:56 AM »

I didn't use a slideout.  I have access to everything I need on the generator for maintanance.  Fewer moving parts, easier to put the quiet box around it.

Ace, nice job, I always apreciate creative work -  those "wheels" are cool
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2007, 04:46:43 PM »

Thanks Jim. Your box and install look good too but I have seen it already! LOL

Your unit looks different from mine. I wanted access to the filters AND the wiring so I put mine in WITH the bay which differs from yours! Either one works of course! Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2007, 10:30:59 AM »

Ace,

What did you use to line you bay with before you installed the slide? It looks so clean and gives a great appearence when you open the bay doors.

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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2007, 12:35:29 PM »

Dean the original floor of the H3 didn't look too heat proof so I simply laid down a sheet of stainless steel. Once the rack was bolted thru the floor with nuts on the bottom, the sheet wasn't about to move or slide around not to mention the weight of the unit itself. It helps to keep it a little cleaner not that I have kept up on it but when I do, it's real easy to wipe drips and such up!

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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2007, 01:55:11 PM »

In BC Magazine some years ago, someone used a swing away boat trailer jack to support the generator rack when it was extended.  I thought that was a pretty good idea.

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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2007, 06:04:10 PM »

 I did exactly that when I installed a Joey bed for my genset slideout. It works great and we added some strength to the recommended flooring to ensure a longer lasting setup. The joey bed is designed to be as small or as large as you need and has a weight rating from the factory. We added just a bit more structure to reduce the amount of flex. When you pull out the joey bed, we installed the crank wheel that helps with tongue weight and makes it much easier to roll out. If folds up and out of the way when not in use and is very practical.

This provides us with easy access to the genset and even easier basic maintenance.

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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2007, 04:29:00 AM »

What is a Joey Bed? I have heard of it but don't know exactly what it is. Can you post a picture?

 I think the jack is a great idea.

Happy Trails,

Paul

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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2007, 02:46:26 PM »

What is a Joey Bed? I have heard of it but don't know exactly what it is. Can you post a picture?

 I think the jack is a great idea.

Happy Trails,

Paul

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Count yourself lucky to have heard of one but not know what one exactly is. Not like me who once knew what one was but has forgot what one is or looked like LOL

I call it oldtimers, halfhimers or less himmers than I used to have LOL

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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2007, 04:18:47 PM »

 Paul.  here is joey web site  www.joeybed.com

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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2007, 04:33:39 PM »

Pete,

Thanks for the website post on Joey Beds.

Looks like a well built slide drawer, handles up to 2,000 lbs on one model.

I bet they are pricey as they don't post any.

Happy Trails,

Paul

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2007, 06:38:55 PM »

Paul, I was able to pick up two Joey beds via craigslist for $400.00  I am happy with the quality of each unit. I would say that you can safely count on 75% of the suggested weight of each unit. There is a bit of flex built into the unit. We wanted just a bit more strength and added a cross member that seems to have done the trick. I have one Joey for the genset at 750 lbs and one for the maintenance/tool box set up at 450 to 500 lbs. I also added a safety pin to provide a second layer of safety. Do not want a genset to come through a door.

I will get pictures this weekend.

The installation was a breeze and the instructions off the joey bed website were very helpful.

Good luck!

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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2007, 04:50:20 AM »

Since I found the square tubing of my frame sitting next to the dumpster where I used to work, total cost was around $200.00 for mine! Not to shabby for home made!  Wink


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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2007, 06:08:59 AM »

Ace, I like the cost of yours.

I plan to make the frame myself and line the genset bay with some heat and sound proof material at the same time. The stainless you used for the floor is a great idea.

Happy Trails,

Paul

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