I've got the answer (s)
A remote front mounted radiator.......nope that would put weight forward of the front axle effecting handling
a roof mounted radiator.....nope that would raise the CG also screwing with the handling
AHHH..........a midship mounted radiator.....with a ducted roof scoop and a bank of squirel cage fans.........set it up similar to the MCI system which shuts off the airflow of the cage fans ( a squirel cage fan that is not moving air draws practically no power)
Ha...cute. Actually, all those may have merit, or a combination of them. I like the roof mounted idea. The hot air being lighter, would create lift, thus improving mileage. And, when it overheated, the lift would increase, reducing the load on the engine, thus reducing the fuel consumption, thus reducing the heat generated by the engine, causing the engine to cool down to a normal temp again. Good thinkin man!
Unfortunately, my issue is not to address an overheating condition caused by an poorly designed cooling system. It is to increase engine efficiency via increased operation temperature, while not inducing an overheat condition in the process, as I hace stated more that once it this thread, which you have clearly missed.
Wow kyle4501, I sure hope others don't read the thread you read!
I spent lots and lots of time training degree holding idiots how to do their job when I worked as a network admin and sheetmetal protorype machinist. I spent a lot of time explaining to engineers that just because you can draw it on your computer does not mean you can make here in the real world in a production environment. In both cases, these educated people did not understand the real world. Only their books. If the book says, it is. The ones who were open to listening, and understanding the problems between their ideas and the reality are the ones who had experience before and after their degree training.
With that said, I know for sure the the paper one holds is not worth the roll in their bathroom until they get into the real world, learn that there are other ways besides theirs, and that they do not know everything by nature or their paper.
When people insist on paper id, it usually means that the paper is what they base their opinion on, not the person holding it.
Lets see;
I got a great deal on this bus so I'm gonna use it no matter what!
Yes. So? It is very rare that I have more than a few $k to spend on any given item, and I don't carry debt except the house and a credit card. It is what it is.
But first I'm gonna add slide outs &/ or stretch it 10 feet.
If you will read, you will see that while I intent on structural mods, I am still in the planning stage, and in fact have decided to not stretch it, although the reason was for maneuverability and not engineering difficulties.
Now this engine that is so great is under powered, so I'll increase the power.
Yeah. So? Are all these guys fools that repowered their engines, or added turbos?
Hey, you! With the 400hp 8V71! Where do you think you're gong with all the extra power Mister?!
Now this great engine is so inefficient, so I'm gonna redesign the cooling system to fix that.
To want to increase efficiency is not the same as stating that the engine is inefficient. They are not reciprocal. The engine is efficient. I believe it can be more efficient.
Naw, that black smoke ain't cuza incumplete cumbuston. It'sa cuz weiz burnin coal tar. Don't make nears mucha mess iff'n it leaks. It just kinda ooooozes out slowlike.
The transmission is shot so I'll be replacing that too.
Um, yeah. So? The 2 spd is not real great, even in top form, right? The 3 spd is better, right? I can get a good V730 for $500, which means I can have it in my coach for under a grand. I fail to see the problem.
This bus is so great, but the 60's technology is crap, so I'll redesign it to the modern technology level.
Who said the 60's technology is crap, besides you? If it were crap, I would not even have a 41yo coach to work on!
So the 60's tech is good enough for us today, right? How big would the trailer need to be to carry the DDEC4 box and sensors if it were built with 1966 technology!? How big does the garage need to be that you put your 60's technology based Pentium 4 PC?
We just know more today than they knew then, and with that we can do better. I already said this, but clearly you missed it.
Whatcha all need thems slide ruelz fer? I gots this abacus, a tablet o'stone and a chisel. I'll git thems new numbers in a jiffy. .......... Be right back, gotta get some mortar to erase a number.
Let's not forget the trailer to be pulled by a vehicle that was not designed to do that either.
Um, ok. So no trailers either? Wow your rving life must be a blast!
Ok, everyone, unlock the hitch, drop the trailer jack, and pull slowly away from the trailer and no one will get hurt.
Am I missing something? Or do you just have this thing to reinvent the wheel?
You are missing a lot. As for reinventing the wheel, it sounds like if it were up to you the wheel was an silly thing to make. Dragging things around was good enough for them and it should be good enough for us by golly!
Sorry if this is harsh, but I'm beginning to smell something here.
Is there something to help you with that in your bathroom?
To the rest of you, I apologize. I should have done a better job of keeping my thread on-topic, especially in regards to the structural stuff, as that is in a different active thread, that some here decided to mix with this one. I'll do better at on-topic in the future.
Sorry and Thanks
Keith
