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« on: June 11, 2007, 03:55:12 PM »

The ability to locate and fine those using tax-free fuels topic came into focus at Charlotte Motor Speedway a couple weeks ago. 
During race week (similar to an FMCA Rally) a lot of large, diesel power coaches are parked in a tight area.  Primarily in and all around CMS, and Fleetwood Resort Campground.  Guess who visited the area?  You got it.  The fuel tax man. 
They checked as many fuel tanks as they could after spending most of the week working the speedway.  No data on what they found on the RVs and bus conversions, but some poor sucker driving a Mercedes diesel with a "VegOil" bumper sticker got caught in the sting. 
He (Mr. Teixeira) was fined $1000 by North Carolina Dept of Revenue, and has been told to expect another $1000 bill from the feds. 
Seems as though he didn't apply for his $2500 "bond" that must be acquired prior to making "home brew" road fuels. 
This info is from the Charlotte Observer, www.charlotte.com , Saturday, June 9th. 
We just arrived home after another enjoyable boony long weekend.  Came across this item while trying to sort thru 5 days of newpapers. 
I don't use farm fuel, but could if I wanted to....definitely won't now. 
We've often discussed how the tax-man would actually find the non-tax fuel (I thought it would be rare??)....now we have seen it in action!
The new article doesn't mention whether RV'ers were caught with illegal fuel. The article featured the Mercedes owner who is trying to break the OPEC link.  Our government never misses an opportunity to punish the wrong people!  What's especially galling about this is that Teixeira was buying his fuel from Costco in the form of new soybean oil.  He was paying about 30% more than for diesel for the privilege of giving OPEC a gig.   
Most states have laws regulating blending home-brewed fuels....there's a link to North Carolina's regs listed in the article: http://biofuels.coop/general-information/taxes//    I've not looked at the site yet. 
FWIW, JR
 
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2007, 04:40:57 PM »

Well,
I wasn't going to put a lock on my fuel door in response to a previous thread about fuel theft.

However.

Even if I don't have off road fuel or vegoil or dilithium crystals powering my antique detroit diesel, it's none of the governments damn business what I do in my home.

I will be the first to make them obtain a warrant to search my personal property, which includes my fuel tank.

And, since those vehicles were not on public roadways, were not driving on public roadways, or burning off road fuel on public roadways, the tax people had no probable cause to be there.

Tennessee and Missouri tried searching truck drivers sleepers many years ago on the theory that if you were a truck driver, you just had to have contriband on board. The ATA and OOIDA took the states all the way to the supreme court and won with the defense that the truck and the contents thereof were not just part of the commercial part of the unit, but were also to be considered the drivers home, therefore could not be searched unless the driver gave permission, or there was a warrant or if there was probable cause.

As far as I can tell, The state of North Carolina had none of these.

Maybe it's time to stand up and let the gummint know what we think.

I got some irrate emails awhile back about the signature at the bottom of my posts, having to do with governments job not being to protect it's citizens, but governments job is to protect itself. I also had written that there is not and cannot be a law against the overthrow of the government.
So, being a nice guy, I changed my signature line to keep peace in the family here.


OK, I'm off my soapbox. The flames can begin.

Dallas

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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2007, 05:03:11 PM »

Hi Dallas,
What the H is "dilitihium crystals?"   Will it make my bus faster??  Cheesy
BTW, looking thru recent posts, I see a similar thread regarding brewed fuels and usery taxation that was started by Richard.
If you or Richard wish to move my comments to that thread, feel free.
Best, JR
 
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2007, 05:19:16 PM »

Dilithium Crystals: See Star Trek. Scotty was always screwing with them and trying to make the Enterprise go faster.

As far as I'm concerned, this is a good place to have this thread.

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2007, 06:37:18 PM »

I was amazed and shocked when I first heard this too. No warrant, no probable cause. Just a bumper sticker.  Huh
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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2007, 07:00:12 PM »

I was amazed and shocked when I first heard this too. No warrant, no probable cause. Just a bumper sticker.  Huh
While I have a huge problem with the legality of checking the fuel in private vehicles without warrant, cause or permission, they could probably argue that the bumper sticker gave them probable cause to believe that a crime was being committed.

I think Dallas got it right - put a lock on the fuel door.  And as somebody pointed out, don't advertise what you're using for fuel.  I could be wrong, but I think that they would either have to provide a court approved search warrant or arrest the owner to legally go past a locked door on private property without the owner's permission.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2007, 06:13:09 PM »

I once saw a bumper sticker of two hands choking garfield the cat.  I thought it was the most hilarious sticker ever.  But, I just didn't realize that meant that garfield was dead and killed by the driver of that car and stuffed in the trunk. Smiley

If we sport a bumber sticker that says "this bus protected by smith and wesson" does that mean they can search for a concealed weapon?HuhHuh NO,  HEL* NO!!!!

Come on, this country was founded on freedom, period......... Its up to us to stand up for it.  If I was this guy, I would get the media involved and fight this fight with all resources I could drag into it.

Now I'm not talking about the tax on fuel but, only the invasion of privacy.  I understand the tax idea.

You gotta keep the law makers in check or th-all be tellin us when to fart  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2007, 06:46:03 PM »

Hello.

I thought America was founded by a rebellion against those that were in authority abusing their power over the people....

As a foreign observer, I might have it wrong....

Wait, that's what we're talking about now!

So, have at 'em, boys!

happy coaching!
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2007, 04:44:24 AM »

When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) ...

What category are we in now?

Dallas, for the record, I liked your tag line.

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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2007, 05:22:52 AM »

Dispite this recent event the Government has been checking fuel for many years......it is nothing new.  I am sure there is legislation that allows it as well.

If you make Hard Liquor at home you are also subject to taxation ( beer and wine are exempt up to a certain volume).

Do you guys have a problem when your vehicle is searched at the boardercrossing?  What about at Agricultural checkpoints?

How about Random DOT Roadside checks. The happen daily nationwide without probable cause




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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2007, 06:07:00 AM »

Dispite this recent event the Government has been checking fuel for many years......it is nothing new.  I am sure there is legislation that allows it as well.

If you make Hard Liquor at home you are also subject to taxation ( beer and wine are exempt up to a certain volume).

Do you guys have a problem when your vehicle is searched at the boardercrossing?  What about at Agricultural checkpoints?

How about Random DOT Roadside checks. The happen daily nationwide without probable cause


Doug,
The fuel checks that are performed are on commercial vehicles and that IS legal. Read the fine print on your fueltax and roaduse tax paperwork. It's spelled out quite plainly.
I doubt that anyone has a real problem with paying their fair share of taxes.
Beer and wine as far as I know are exempt to taxation when made at home for personal use up to 200gallons per year.
Vehicle searches at border crossings are not performed by police, but by federal officers attempting to stop illegal smuggling. I've been across both the US/Mexico border and the US/Canada border more times than I can count. I also have NEVER been searched when exiting the US, only while entering.

DOT checks are NOT searches. DOT checks are safety inspections performed to keep the law abiding 4 wheelers safe from the evil, dirty, drug crazed truck drivers as seen on 20/20.
When you obtain your CDL, you give implicit permission for such checks as roadside drug tests, blood/alcohol tests, log book, permit, registration and insurance checks etc. You can also refuse to take the tests, but your license will be suspended or revoked. Permission is not implicit for DOT or any police officer to search your vehicle without primafacie evidence that a crime is, was, or will be commited. Probable cause MUST be apparent. When you get stopped, the officer will ask you, "Do you mind if I search your vehicle?" All you have to do is say no. Even drivers for commercial carriers have that right. That forces the officer to obtain a warrant for which he will need to show probable cause. Sure, they can hold you until the warrant arrives, but IF they don't have probable cause, they cannot get a warrant. If they do obtain a warrant and find nothing, they are still open to illegal search laws. If they search without permission or a warrant, They have broken the illegal search laws.
Use the law to your advantage, the cops certainly will.

In a town where I lived, one of the town drunks was stopped for DUI over 15 times. He never lost his license for DUI, he lost his license for refusal to take the field sobriety test and the blood alcahol test. He figured it was better to refuse than to be a 3 time loser for DUI and face 5 years in jail. His normal fine was $500, 30 days and a years suspension.
Pretty smart drunk.

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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2007, 07:57:33 AM »

. . . . . but some poor sucker driving a Mercedes diesel with a "VegOil" bumper sticker got caught in the sting. . . . 

Makes me want to put those alternative fuel stickers on my gas suburban just to mess with 'em.  Wink

But then they would just get pissed & make life hard for a law abiding citizen.  Cry

Remember, laws were written for law breakers. The courts favor the repeat offender, & it seems the burden is more often imposed on the innocent rather than the guilty. At least is seems that way after numerous jury duties.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2007, 11:41:04 AM »

All depends on the State.

and how their code is written.

CA stops R/V's on a regular basis checking fuel, When I worked for the Feds......CHP pulled over and ticketed a Federal Fire Engine and cited the Driver for not scaling after coming back into CA from NV.  Perfectl;y legal the way the code was written.

MD requires all vehicles over a certain wt to scale...commercail or not.  Does everyone....no....do they enforce....not often but they do from time to time.

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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2007, 11:42:29 AM »

TOO MANY LAWS...CAN'T TAKE IT...BRAIN SUCCUMBING TO COMMUNISM...

The only way for the people in power to stay in power is to make themselves relevant by making more laws for them to enforce.  That's how Communism was able to thrive for so long.  People were encouraged to turn in their own family members who were guilty of such infractions as speaking their minds.  And the laws that already exist are selectively enforced.  

Ronald Reagan said, "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."

I fear we are quickly approaching a precipice that we cannot pull back from.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2007, 12:29:24 PM »

All depends on the State.

and how their code is written.

CA stops R/V's on a regular basis checking fuel, When I worked for the Feds......CHP pulled over and ticketed a Federal Fire Engine and cited the Driver for not scaling after coming back into CA from NV.  Perfectl;y legal the way the code was written.

MD requires all vehicles over a certain wt to scale...commercail or not.  Does everyone....no....do they enforce....not often but they do from time to time.


I'd be interested in seeing the California code that allows illegal search, as in checking POV fuel tanks. I have driven RV's and Trucks all over California and never been stopped for such a search in an R/V.
I have been stopped in trucks though, many times. That's why, besides the cheap freight heading east, I wouldn't go to California.
I also know that California will check you if you have an excess amount of smoke from your tailpipe, and that would give probable cause to check the fuel tank.
Maryland I can't comment on except to say that weighing is not the same as searching.
To bring up other laws,
Virginia does not allow Radar detectors, Indiana can make a primary stop if they believe you are using a radio frequency scanner that receives police frequencies.
The state of Idaho even has a law on the books that states that no motor vehicle will be parked within 1/8 mile of the City Limits of Boise.
I was stopped in the early 80's in my truck in Connecticut and received a ticket for RDI. I thought it meant "Right Directional Indicator" until the fine caught my eye..... $250! I was told it was for a "Radar Detector Infraction". I won that one. I didn't have a radar detector, I had a Jammer, which is still illegal, but under a different law.

Over all, just because a State does something does NOT make it legal. It just means that the state has gotten away with it.
Heck, In the District of Columbia, I believe it is illegal to carry a handgun. But according to our second amendment rights, that law is, in itself, illegal.

If too many people are afraid to stand up, the government will take over EVERY facit of our society. Too many have already said, "The Police are Always Right!" "It's not my problem", "As long as they don't bother me, it's fine."

Look at history, not all that long agao... 1933 Germany, 1959 Cuba, 1939 France. Look to our southern Neighbors, 1998 Venezuela, 1930Argentina, 1980Colombia, 1989 Panama.

History has a way of repeating itself, as it is doing here and now. As far as I'm concerned, Large government is bad government and a government that stifles innovation is entirely too large.

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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2007, 12:45:30 PM »

OK OK, getting off topic and too political for this board.

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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2007, 01:19:04 PM »

Doesnít veggie fuel have a different odor than diesel when burned? Like French fries or something? (I have a nephew that has messed with the stuff and that is what he says) If that were true, the bumper sticker wouldnít matter. If this info has been posted before Iím sorry, I usually donít read the veggie posts.
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2007, 01:21:57 PM »

Just looked up a few State sites.

many don't mention alternative fuels but clearly state fuel used for on road use, does not give you a pass if you collect or make your own.  also does not give you a pass if you have a car that runs on raw water, uranium or any other such alternative fuel.

did not take the time to look at the legality of spot checking tanks......I @$#-u-me if they can legally spot check your Commercail vehicle tank private vehicles fall under the same unbrella unless it specifically states Commercial vehicle or specifically exepmts private vehicles.

Fuel is fuel as far as the verbage in the stuff I was reading.......only free pass would be for wind, or direct animal driven equipment. as they are not using fuel as it relates to internal combustion engines.

Now........there are loopholes.......if you blend your SVO/WVO with on road diesel.....which would make it dyed.........you can claim it is a fuel addative.......which is not taxable unless it is purchased.....but then only at the sales tax rate not the Fuel rate.

you could spend days in a law library reading codes, ammendments to codes etc.

I would place a good wager that there is a code that allows for checking fuel tanks in the jurisdiction that this happened in.
several WVO/SVO sites I have been reading as part of the 4104 project I am on have mentioned taxation.......and several states have stated that it is taxable, but at the current rate of use it is not worth their effort to police WVO/SVO in persoanl vehicles.....once again....would have to read the tax/vehicle/epa codes to figure out for sure

Suck it up and pay the damn taxes.....fuel taxes go to roads...and your using them.



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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2007, 01:47:05 PM »

I don't think anyone is trying to get out of paying taxes.  In fact, I remember seeing Dallas say that everyone should pay their "fair share".  The problem I have is with someone walking up to my RV on a campsite, opening my fuel tank and sticking something down in there.

Who knows where that thang's been Grin

I am a law abiding citizen and wish everyone were.  But there comes a time when you have to wonder when enough is enough.  In Tennessee, you can get arrested and charged with DUI if you are "riding" in a car drunk.  What the heck??? Huh Huh Huh
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2007, 04:55:07 PM »

I agree, I don't think anyone here is having a problem with paying the taxes, even if we do feel that we are overtaxed.  The problem is the tactics being used at this time.  As for the legality of checking the tanks of private vehicles without probable cause, I am doubtful.  Consider this comparison:

A vendor is selling cigarettes on the sidewalk.  At any time, code enforcement officers or ATF agents can inspect his inventory to make sure they are legal and been properly taxed.  On the other hand, suppose you were walking down the sidewalk and an officer ordered you to "assume the position" and patted you down to check to see if you had any untaxed cigarettes on you.  Would that be legal?

As for what constitutes probable cause, the bumper sticker probably would hold up.  After all, if you are a "properly" licensed fuel distributor, the license gives them the right to inspect it.  And if you aren't a "properly" licensed distributor, then you are in violation of the law, albeit an inappropriate law.  Smell would probably also hold up as probable cause since smell is the basis for electronic or canine sniffers for other types of searches.

If the founding fathers are somehow aware of what the U.S. has become, I imagine they are both proud and appalled.  Proud of its stature and strength and appalled at what has become of the freedoms and non-intrusive government that the they sacrificed so much to create.
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2007, 11:52:50 PM »

Is gathering, and burning waste vegetable oil Legal?
 
First lets break it down into 2 questions.
 
Question 1.
 Is it legal to gather waste vegetable oil.
 
Who knows?!?!  Depends on who you ask, where you live, how much you are hauling, And most importantly, Is anybody really asking?
For 99.9 % of the people who are using waste oil as a fuel, this is not even an issue for them.  They make a deal with a local restaurant, pick up a few jugs of oil every week, (which is basically a take out order of greasy fries, minus the fries) and go on about their business.  No one bothers them.  There is no reason to bother them.
The rendering companies, over the years, have paid for a few laws in a few states, that make it "illegal" to haul waste oil without a permit.  (its for your own good you know.  It is too dangerous for you to haul 10 gallons of used oil,  sitting next to the 10 gallons of new oil you  bought to fry a turkey and some fish in) The permit is usually $100 or under, and that is that.  The good old American way, use the force of government to favor one business, and require you to pay the ransom for the "right" to do something.  To my knowledge the only people who have ever paid attention to this law, is the rendering companies in very competitive oil markets in big cities.  The DA has better things to do than to prosecute a dangerous guy with 10 gallons of oil in the back of his Mercedes. I have only heard of 1 or 2 cases where guys that were collecting thousands of gallons of oil, and got into it with the Renderers, and had their hands slapped at the request of the renderers.  Like I said they are the only ones who care.  It is kind of like some one getting all excited and turning you in for having a garage sale and not collecting sales tax.  It isn't going to happen.  The only time the powers that be would care is if you went from a garage sale to a legitimate business open 5 days a week, then they want you to collect the tax.
 For most of our customers, they are gathering oil from places that don't have a recycling contract to begin.  To me it is a non issue.
There are many arguments you could make for it, how about this one.  The oil is food.  The restaurant is in the business of selling food, they sell allot of oil with their food.  You want the oil, The owner wants to give it to you, buy a burger and fries and ask for a healthy side of oil.  You are not hauling grease, you bought food.   Will it stand up in court?  I don't know?  The chances of you going there are nil.
There are many ways to approach it, use your imagination.
But a few things to remember are that people are not getting into trouble over this, and IF there is a "law"  it is very questionable if there is any relation to an individual picking up oil for personal use anyway.  Whether you burn it in your car feed it to your dogs, or use it to keep the dust down on your gravel road, It doesn't matter.
If you are gathering on a grand scale, or are in a particularly socialist state and are nervous about it, you might decide to get a renderers license.  I encourage everyone to do your home work, study it out in your own mind and decide where you stand on the issue.  Ultimately there are endless situations for a variety of different people.  It is up to you to decide what your tactic is going to be. 
For me personally, I am never for supporting and possibly furthering regulation on something that is so clearly harmless and a natural right.   If there is a grey area, which this certainly is, I will side with personal freedom and less regulation.  Some people are not comfortable with that.  It is for each person to decide for themselves.       
 
Question 2.
Is it legal to use vegetable oil as a fuel?
 
Most States have no idea where they stand on Vegetable oil as a fuel .  It is not an EPA recognized fuel, there for not a "legal" fuel .  (Neither is sunshine, water, peanut butter, or small mammals.)  Just because something isn't specifically legal, doesn't necessarily make it illegal. 
In 99% of the cases where people have gone to the state authority and asked "who do I pay for road tax, and how much?"  they are told "we don't know, we have no forms for it, and it isn't in the book, go away and don't worry about it."  Every once in awhile they will get the " You cant do that, you have to fill out the forms, pay the tax, and buy the secret decoder pen to be official!"  It is usually and arbitrary decision from a low level administrator that is looking for job security.   I have also heard of people getting two different answers out of the same office.  The bottom line is nobody really knows in most states, and more importantly very few care.  And if they care at all, it is usually positive because they see something good for the environment.
A very interesting point is, the states that will except a voluntary payment of highway tax, are doing so on a "non-legal" and unrecognized fuel.  I am sure there is room to explore the ramifications of that concept.
 
OK, so if there is confusion and different answers amongst the "officials" , then the question has to be asked, why is the question coming up?
Except for 2 instances I know of, which I will discuss later, the only reasons people are getting these varied answers, is because they are doing the asking.  This issue is not even on the radar, and the only reason it is coming up is people are asking.
This is really a grey area with white shades in our favor.   I have heard and thought of many very plausible arguments as to why using waste vegetable oil is exempt from taxes and is not under any specific jurisdiction.
Without going into great detail, I will mention a few for you to think about, and I am sure if you are inclined you can think of a few yourself. 
1. The oil is gathered for free, it is not bought or sold, so there is no taxable event.
2. Sales Tax was paid on the oil when it was bought by the restaurant.   
3. Because the vehicle is started and shut down on petroleum diesel, taxes are being paid on that portion, and the veggie oil is only a fuel extender or additive.
4. It is not a recognized fuel, and because of that there is no statute stating the rate of taxation.
5. You only burn veggie oil when you are on private property, or off road, and are not liable for taxes.
6. If no one is asking, (and even if they are) keep it to yourself.  It is no one else's business.
 
Now the 2 cases I know of where people were "turned in" "fined" or hassled by the Gubment,  They could have been totally avoided if the person would have been educated and approached the situation with some anatomy, knowledge and discretion.  The "agents" in both situations didn't have any precedent, they were just applying statute that was similar to see if it would fly. (remember that there is next to no precedent for SVO/WVO cases.)   The "guilty" parties were fined.  In both cases, within a week there was enough public outrage that the state legislatures passed  exemptions for the fines and set the precedent in the positive.  So in that sense the people who were involved did ok not resolving it at the scene.   The reality was, that once it got past the petty bureaucrats, and went up the line. no one was going to go after these guys for recycling and using a clean alternative fuel.  In this day and age it is political suicide to do it.
 
There is also a very positive movements in several states, and it is gaining momentum.
New Mexico and Illinois have "legalized" veggie oil.
But one of the most exciting was getting Act 690 passed into law in Arkansas in March 2007.
It redefines the law in Arkansas to exempt pure unmodified vegetable oil as a fuel.  Essentially saying that they will leave us to use it as we see fit, and they will not tax it or regulate it.  Since the passing of the bill several other states have requested information on the bill, and are looking to enact similar laws.
 
There are essentially 2 paths an individual can choose to take.
 
1. Seek out regulating agencies, determine if they will take your money, and if they will, volunteer how much oil you are using and pay them. 
 
2. Gather and burn veggie oil, save money, help the environment, don't support foreign oil, and take the very slight risk that at some point in the future you may have to explain why you chose to do what you did without asking permission and checking if it was OK first.
 
There are some people who do not feel comfortable with option 2, There is a risk that at some point you will have to explain yourself.  Everybody has to study the issue and make up their own minds on the issue.
 
At this point we are not on the radar, and there is no effort to go after veggie burners.  We are seen as hobbyist, and not a threat.  There are just too few of us, in the grand scheme of things, to spend the time to create a policy.   
 
In summery, all have to decide for themselves, taking into account their situation, where they live, and how they use the oil, which option they will go for.
 
                                                                                     Post Script
 
 
Now, although my personal position is probably apparent in this essay, I want to stand up and be counted, and state exactly where I personally stand on this issue.
I believe in personal freedom, and along with that personal responsibility.  I value my right to gather my own fuel in the private sector, without government intervention or permission, and to provide for the needs of my family.  I categorize it under "The pursuit of happiness"  It is a God given right, not a privilege granted by statute. 
I have not been quiet about my use of veggie oil as a fuel, I am in a high profile situation with my business, and the fact that my vehicles have the fact plastered all over them everywhere I drive.
 I feel that with the situation that we have, where we are being left alone for the most part, that we let things be.  But if the situation arises to make a difference or to get policy changed we need to be in the fore front and keep things in the private sector and as unregulated as possible.  The Exemption we were able to pass into law in Arkansas is a perfect example.  We don't need government help, just get out of our way and let us do it.
I understand that some of us are on a very fine line, between minding our own business and being perceived as thumbing our nose at the powers that be,  but with next to no precedent on most of these issues, someone has to stand up and be counted.   There is risk involved I for one want to be able to look my kids in the eye when I am old, and know that I did all I could to appose encroaching regulation on our freedom.  I hope that the present trend of exemptions for Veggie oil will continue, but if not, there is a need for people to stand up and do what they can to promote less regulation, and the freedom to be a part of the solution on the grass roots level.  Pollution and foreign oil are big problems, problems largely created by bad government policy.  I for one, am not going to wait around and hope more government policy will fix it. 
Yes, there is risk involved in any cause that is trying to change the status quo.   I want to be able to look my children in the eye when I am old, and know that I stood up for what I believed in, and did what I could to make the world a better place.   
 
This may seem like an extreme rant to some, and it may resonate with others.  Some may believe that in a business forum that I would be better served taking a bit more neutral approach, but why stop now!?!  At the risk of angering a few, and not being very politically correct;  I second the words of Samuel Adams,


".lf ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animated contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. --Samuel Adams

Charles Anderson
President Of Golden Fuel Systems.
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