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« on: July 13, 2007, 05:45:54 PM »

I dropped off the replacement axle this morning. Mid-afternoon i get a call from the shop, i was expecting the guy to tell me i could pick up the bus tonight.

Instead he told me the tube or axle sleeve is distorted. The new axle would not slide past the spot where the axle had broke. He even removed the axle from the other side to try and it would hang up in the same place. He said the old axle had turned blue from the heat, and you could see where it was rubbing. He then took a bar and slid in there and could definately feel a lump.

So i guess my options are:
  1 - have a new rear end put in, but the labor costs would be really high plus the cost of the rear end.
  2 - have the tube replaced. I have not had time to check this out, but i think i have heard of a mobile service that will come out, set up a jig and pull the old tube and insert a new one.

I am looking for advice from you guys as to which way to go here. If the replacement service is mobile, that seems to be the way to go. Do any of you know of anyone who has had this done? Did it turn out satisfactrory? Any idea of what the service cost?

I guess when i start tracking this all down next week i will get some answers, but just looking for some maybe good news somewhere. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2007, 05:56:33 PM »

John,
1st off sorry to hear about it, but as Forrest Gump said "it happens".
OK now for the good news there is an outfit that has been around for a long time call Axle Doctors or The Axle Doctor or something like that! They have a huge enclosed trailer they pull behind a 1 ton truck (or that's what they used to have) and basically they have a machine shop set up specifically for repairing any and all problems related to any axle! I can't tell you anything about their prices! But I can tell you growing up in the Towing business I've seen many customers call them out to our shop to repair axles! Let me tell you they are very good at what they do! I'd suggest googling them, or calling JD @ C & J Bus Repair and ask him for the one nearest you!(if I remember correctly you are in MN) HTH ! And good luck! Let us know if ya need more info/help!
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2007, 06:04:09 PM »

Thanks BK. Yep, i am a couple hours north of the Cities in MN. I was talking to JD a few days ago,,, he was the guy that steered me towards the axle i picked up. Yes, i will give him a call asap. Thanks for the good news,,, trust me, it was needed. Any chance the name was Axle Masters? A friend of mine was searching for the name in his memory and kept coming up with that. But yes, tonight i will google them and track them down. Any idea how much the Power Ball Lottery is up to? I need to hit one of those i think, and soon.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2007, 06:05:10 PM »

http://www.axlesurgeons.com/index.html

Is one I find on google! HTH
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enter I didn't find anything on Axle Masters! And I find tons of info on "The Axle Doctors" out of Tampa, FL! But if I remember correctly the couple of different trucks that came to us in Paducah, KY were plated in IL, IN, OH. I just can't remember where but they definetly said "Axle Doctor" pn them and they told me they went everywhere working on broken axles! But it's also been 20 +/- yrs! JD ought to know someone! If not try the Axle Surgeons, worse thing that can happen is they quote such a high price we look into replacement rear end options for you! FWIW HTH!
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2007, 09:06:02 AM »

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John I took the liberty of moving this from where Richard posted it for kwajdriver (for his 9 - why? don't ask me! LOL!)

Ya never know this could be the item you need! Especially if anyone was coming back from Bus'n USA (Rickeral, OR) with a trailer they could haul it on for you!  Just a thought! Or if ya know any truck drivers that pull flatbed and run to OR. FWIW!
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2007, 02:08:36 PM »

BK, read the rest of the posts below that one and you will understand. Someone told kwaj about this free offer and I copied it from the BNO board and pasted it here to answer his question about it. Easy, huh?
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John I took the liberty of moving this from where Richard posted it for kwajdriver (for his 9 - why? don't ask me! LOL!)

Ya never know this could be the item you need! Especially if anyone was coming back from Bus'n USA (Rickeral, OR) with a trailer they could haul it on for you!  Just a thought! Or if ya know any truck drivers that pull flatbed and run to OR. FWIW!
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2007, 05:31:59 PM »

Hi BK,
I don't know how anyone else feels about your use of those moving smiley faces in your posts but for my tired eyes they are very distracting.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2007, 05:53:00 PM »

Hi John
I know how you feel I had the same problems 2 years ago. I used Axle surgeons if you want some ins and outs the cost get up with me But I will say this they replaced the tube with a new one. I got all new bearings and seals from Luke's. And never had any trouble at all. I got all my advice from LUKE'S (US COACH)
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2007, 06:29:03 PM »

Hi gm4106. If you would email me (my email addr is in my profile) the cost of that service from axlesurgeons i would appreciate that. They are on my list of folks to call tomorrow. I have rcvd several votes of confidence about their work, so i have no qualms about using them. Just depends on the cost of their service and the other options. Thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2007, 07:21:22 PM »

Hi BK,
I don't know how anyone else feels about your use of those moving smiley faces in your posts but for my tired eyes they are very distracting.
Thanks, Sam 4106

Aw shucks an I thought they were cute! OK I'll compromise and quit using them in the body of my posts and leave them with my slogan at the bottom! Is that better?
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2007, 07:23:50 PM »

Hi BK,
I don't know how anyone else feels about your use of those moving smiley faces in your posts but for my tired eyes they are very distracting.
Thanks, Sam 4106

Aw shucks an I thought they were cute! OK I'll compromise and quit using them in the body of my posts and leave them with my slogan at the bottom! Is that better?
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Still anoying, especially when I enjoy your posts otherwise.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2007, 07:35:54 PM »

Hi BK,
I don't know how anyone else feels about your use of those moving smiley faces in your posts but for my tired eyes they are very distracting.
Thanks, Sam 4106

Aw shucks an I thought they were cute! OK I'll compromise and quit using them in the body of my posts and leave them with my slogan at the bottom! Is that better?
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Still anoying, especially when I enjoy your posts otherwise.

Aw Shucks I heard a great politican (if there is such a thing) Said you can make most of the people happy some of the time, and some of the people happy all the time. But you can never make all the people happy anytime!

PS damn if I'm pissing that many folks off, I have another solution too! C-YA!

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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2007, 08:22:12 PM »

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You weren't pissing me off. You asked if it was better & I gave MY opinion.

The scrolling text anoyance issue comes up from time to time - some may like it, but it makes my eyes ache.

It's sad when someone lets something so little have that big an impact. . . .

But to pack up your toys & go home? ?

Like they say in the old country - " **** 'em if they can't take a joke. "

Do what you gotta do.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2007, 06:24:40 PM »

Hi BK,
I'm sorry I stired up the bees in your bonnet. I thought a long time before deciding to post my message about your use of moving smiley faces. I can see now that I made the wrong choice. SORRY! You have contributed so much to this board that I didn't want to offend you. Please don't stop posting on my account. It will be much better for the group if I just skip over your posts and let everyone else bennefit from your knowledge. Again I'm sorry I made my comment.
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2007, 01:26:08 AM »

"I can see now that I made the wrong choice. SORRY!"

No Sam, not wrong at all, and it was a reasonable observation in the first place.

Thanks for bringing them to a halt BK. Good compromise that should make everyone happy.
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2007, 05:23:18 PM »

Hi BK,
I don't know how anyone else feels about your use of those moving smiley faces in your posts but for my tired eyes they are very distracting.
Thanks, Sam 4106

Sam I do appreciate you pointing it out to me! As I really just thought they were a cute addition to my normal smart *ss answers I give. And really hadn't thought about the effects of them too others! You made a very good point and I have done what I could to eliminate them from scrolling in any future posts! Thanks.
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2007, 06:16:26 PM »

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BK,
You weren't pissing me off. You asked if it was better & I gave MY opinion.
I do understand! BUT IT WAS THEY WAY YOU GAVE YOUR OPINION! After I had already agreed to compromise!
I probably took it wrong but then again I've been under a lot of stress lately, and to top it all off I hadn't been anywhere at all this month until last night! Which was really messing up my attitude as I was having serious road withdraws! If you ever get one of yer Scenics on the road you'll truly understand what I mean! There is more than just owning them that gets in yer blood! And once you get out and drive one you'll see what I (and others mean!). Now I do apologize for taking your remark wrong, and plead temporary insanity (or would that be temporary sanity, since it's already a pr oven fact that I'm not at all sane?). And farther more ...... Ahhh never mind I'll touch on it in a minute!

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The scrolling text anoyance issue comes up from time to time - some may like it, but it makes my eyes ache.


Again I am sorry I never thought of that! And THAT"S ALL YA HAD TO SAY! not the other way ya did!

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It's sad when someone lets something so little have that big an impact. . . .

But to pack up your toys & go home? ?

Like they say in the old country - " **** 'em if they can't take a joke. "

Do what you gotta do.

AS I Said before I was having a bad day, and you rubbed me wrong at the wrong time!
But no I wasn't packing my toys and going home, I LEFT MY TOYS THERE AND MERELY WENT HOME! I was trying to take a much needed break and not say something we'd all end up regretting later! I enjoy, & learn from this board as much as anyone! I sure didn't wanna get in a pissing match with you or anyone else and end up banned from it! (but you probably wouldn't understand that!) Judging from your next remark!

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Like they say in the old country - " **** 'em if they can't take a joke. "

This was as uncalled for as anything! And not only that but it wasn't posted as a joke, nor was it tak'n as a joke! I don't know what old country yer refer'n too, but maybe you should go there and pop of that remark to someone there and see if ya don't need help pick'n yerself up from the cobblestone! I been all over this great country and done lots of different things, some of them I am greatly proud of and would do again. Some of them I am not so proud of and would not do again and hope never to back to! But I've learned many valuable lessons in life, I didn't go to college and get any fancy degrees. But I did graduate from the UNIVERISTY OF HARD KNOCKS!  And I don't use that attitude toward nobody and I sure don't take from nobody either!  So let's  let it be the last time it's expressed between us!

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Do what you gotta do.

I did I took some time off and took a short trip to St. Louis to get my head straight! It's amazing how much taking a group of gents on a bachelor party trip and getting paid 9 Ben Franklin's (almost LIVE, but most definitely in person at least on paper and in spirit! No checks, no invoice, no record! What $, what trip?Where? who? what? I Dunno what yer talk'n about!) can change an attitude for the better! Should I mention that WE ALL HAD A BLAST! Oopps who's we? So now that I've taken my little break, and come back and expressed my OPINION, lets let bygones be bygones and move on and enjoy buss'n which is what this board is about in the first place! NOT YOUR OR MY OPINIONS! Happy motor'n! By the way fer yer own good, I ain't gonna quit given ya a hard time about owning all those cool buses and not being able to use at least one of them until you send verifiable pics (pics can be doctored) of you behind the wheel of one of 'm rolling down the road under it's own power! It's for your own good! You just don't understand the whole buss'n thong until you've experienced it for yourself! FWIW TMHO TIOLI!
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2007, 06:38:25 PM »

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    With 9 Ben's how about this for your next project


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1957-Crown-Coach-Tour-Bus_W0QQitemZ140138717968QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

  You might end up with a few left over...

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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2007, 06:46:50 PM »

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    With 9 Ben's how about this for your next project


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1957-Crown-Coach-Tour-Bus_W0QQitemZ140138717968QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

  You might end up with a few left over...

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Skip it looks like a nice bus, but I already got too many projects now without buying another!
Besides his $4,000.00 start price sent my Ben's running back into my pocket! LOL!
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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2007, 09:15:40 PM »

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I didn't mean to thump matches on your spilled gasoline   Embarrassed

So you had a bad day, week, month. We have all BTDT & will do what we can to support each other.

I'll not apologize for the intent of my post.

After all the bantering between us, it really bothers me that you would read so much negativity & belligerance into my reply when none was intended. I thought the sarcasm came across differently.
AND after the hassle you've given me, I should have the right to hassle you back! Ain't that what friends do?

I enjoy the motivation I have received about getting one of mine on the road & it really helps. But I will NOT rush into this & miss the journey. I'm meeting the best people I've ever met in my life. (Also, when you're trying to find parts for a scenicruiser, you better have DEEP pockets or patience. So since my pockets are shallow, I'm working on patience.)

Also you can't rush 'ART'. So that's my story & I'm sticking with it!  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2007, 07:20:51 AM »

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BK,
I didn't mean to thump matches on your spilled gasoline   Embarrassed 

I'm sure you didn't! And apology excepted!

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I'll not apologize for the intent of my post.   

Didn't ask for an apology!

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After all the bantering between us, it really bothers me that you would read so much negativity & belligerance into my reply when none was intended. I thought the sarcasm came across differently.
AND after the hassle you've given me, I should have the right to hassle you back! Ain't that what friends do?   


As I said I've been totally stressed out! Between not being able to "go" anywhere, trying to keep things going smoothly with the bus company, trying to deal with a major contract to keep the tow trucks busier(which they are self supporting & paid for! And normally I don't have much to do with them, but new contracts require my signature. Which means way too much small print for my simple mind and much research BEFORE I SIGN ANYTHING! Not to mention I been trying to put this off and Jack & Matt finally were able to corner me with it since they were able to "catch me"), and the most stressful of all is trying to decide whether or not to jump off into a MILLION $ Debt by buying out my friend and competitors company; buses (2 awesome '06 Setra S417's, and a sweet low mileage '95 S215), contracts, drivers (only one said we won't come with the buy out as he's been trying to "retire" for several years and "Don won't let him!"), & HEADACHES! For just $15,000.00 per month (whether the buses move or not !) We can have it all lock, stock & barrel! Which means way too much small print for my simple mind and much research BEFORE I SIGN ANYTHING! Oh have I mentioned that the way Dad an I have done our business so far is to pay cash for everything and be debt free! With the exception of our monthly insurance bill, of course! So yes being stuck here at home/office with too much time to worry about these things, I'd just had too much!
AND Yes, I agree you or anyone on this board should be able to hassle me, as much as I do others!
I was just not myself at the time! But I'm better now! The wrecker deal is done, and I had a "fix"!

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I enjoy the motivation I have received about getting one of mine on the road & it really helps. But I will NOT rush into this & miss the journey. I'm meeting the best people I've ever met in my life. Also, when you're trying to find parts for a scenicruiser, you better have DEEP pockets or patience. So since my pockets are shallow, I'm working on patience.)   

Hey I understand not wanting to rush it and mess it up! But hey getting one useable doesn't mean it's gotta be DONE! Ahh remember how stressed out "Belfert" got last year when he wasn't done enough for his trip? Well he got over it, and has been using it and enjoying it! And it "still ain't done!"
Ahh also look at Buddydawg he's bringing his to the rally this weekend literally as a tin tent!

Ahhh now I and any and everyone on this board know that parts for any bus are expensive (Setra sends mine in Mercedes Benz boxes so I'll at least feel better about what I pay for them! LOL!)! But we thought that's what you keep bringing all those extra parts buses home for! LOL! Get one rolling! Even if it's just a way cool "tin tent" get it where you can feel the experience and it will motivate you to continue to work on it as $ allows!

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Also you can't rush 'ART'. So that's my story & I'm sticking with it!  Grin

I DO AGREE! But haven't ya heard of art in motion? LOL!

By the way is this better?
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2007, 07:51:26 AM »

BK,
COOL

I figgured we were pals  Grin

But you still gotta learn that to part out one of the orphans is not acceptable to me. I feel that having a restored seated & a converted coach will be awesome. Then I have to have one for each of the kids too - I wouldn't want them taking mine  Grin

I don't envy having to carry those nads of yours if you're doing all that! I'm nervous as hell about borrowing more than I make in a month! (didn't stop me tho  Roll Eyes )

I'll bet you would benefit from a little ride down here this weekend to see us in the up-state. You might even get a few ideas of what not to do at your rally  Grin 

chill, peace-out, later, TTFN

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I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. (R.M. Nixon)
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