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Author Topic: SC to TN - Not a Bad Trip So Far... Except for..  (Read 3493 times)
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« on: July 25, 2007, 05:00:04 AM »

Well, Here's an update on our trip so far.

We left SOB, SC and headed out toward Greenville, SC to visit with Jon and Mandy and the chilluns' (NewbeeMC9) but decided to stop at Chester State Park for the night.
Chester is a beautiful park with a lake and easy access to most of the amenities.
Power is 20 and 30 amp, each site has water but there is no sewer, you have to go to a central dumpsite.

The next day we decided that it was so nice and quiet that we would stay another day and head out on Thursday.

Thursday came so we packed up and headed on west, using the GPS to route us on to Jons place.

Not a bad trip so far...

As we got to The Greenville-Spartanburg area, the road we were to turn on wasn't anywhere to be found. This was Using MS Streets and Trips. (My Delorme Data CD was corrupted and unuseable).
We ended up going through downtown Spartanburg, SC. Not my most favorite thing to do, believe me!

We finally got through town, but ended up way north of where we should have been so we decided to go on up to the Palmetto Cove Campground where Kyles mini rally was going to take place.

Not a bad trip so far...

As we got out to the highway that would take us to the campground, we ran into some stoplights. Most of which I was either able to go on through because they were green or had time to stop. Except one.

I topped a hill and started down around a curve and right in front of me was a yellow light. I stomped on the brakes and slowed down, but was moving too fast to make the stop... I ran the red light.

The brakes didn't feel like they had worked right, so I started looking for a place to pull off and adjust them. Wouldn't you know, all vestiges of pull offs disappeared.

We finally made it to Palmetto Cove and had a great time meeting some great people, eating lots of great food and generally having fun.

Sunday I crawled under the bus and adjusted the brakes up for a Monday departure enconvoy with NCbob, Jack Conrad and Uncle Ned.

Monday things started out OK, but the brakes still didn't feel quite right. We made it about halfway to Franklin when I passed through another red light while my foot was flat on the floor with the brake pedal under it. Quite a bit of pucker factor was building up, since I knew we had a bunch of sharp curves and steep descents coming up.

We drove for awhile looking for a spot to pull off that was large enough to get a couple of buses into so I could work on the brakes some more.
Just before we hit the worst part of the route, we found a place to get off. Uncle Ned pulled in behind us and let us know we had smoked the tires on the front of the bus, but nothing from the back. He asked if we needed him to help and I figured I could either fix it there or have it towed so I sent him on leting him know we'd be along later, hopefully.

I got down under the bus and adjusted the brakes up as tight as they would go, but still had nothing on the pedal. I got under again and looked closer and found the actuator rods from the cans had been cut too short when the previous owner had new cans put on. The only thing I could do was screw the clevises out as far as I could which finally gave me enough brake to go again.

We got back on the road and made it to Clayton where we stopped for groceries and met Bob, Jack and Ned coning back to see if they could help.

From Clayton to Franklin, Bob led us to his campground without further problems.

Now we are at the campground and as soon as the gravel dries up this morning I plan on replacing the actuator rods of which I have an extra set.

Well, that's all for now, hopefully we'll have further updates as we go along.

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2007, 07:07:05 AM »

Well glad to hear the update! Sorry to hear about the trouble with MS Streets & Trips though, I have always had great results using it! Really sorry to hear about the brake situation! Just be sure that ALL is OK before heading out again! I know you know the importance of safety. I just wanna remaind you that you an Cat are precious cargo (I guess the kitty's are too, I'm just not "big" on 'm as I'm alergic to 'm). Besides ya gotta make it here in one piece, we got lots to do before the rally and the list of other stuff is getting longer! LOL! Well enjoy the great company you are presently with, keep the updates coming and I'll keep a light on for ya! LOL!
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2007, 08:04:00 AM »

Cat & Dallas and Jackie and I just saw Jack & Paula off on their way to AL and Uncle Ned and Wilma left for Robbinsville, NC where Ned will no doubt offload the 750 Honda motorcycle for a few exciting runs up and down the Dragon!

I'm considering most everything this side of sabotage to keep the Farnsworth's here with us for a few more days before they leave for points west.  Once BK gets his mitts on them my bet is he's gonna hide them away over there in TN and we won't see them too often in the future.

But to be fair...our loss will definitely be his gain and they'll all be quite happy with their new home.

In the meanwhile there's no doubt that Dallas and I can find enough devilment to keep both the girls on their toes.

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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2007, 08:46:11 AM »

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I'm considering most everything this side of sabotage to keep the Farnsworth's here with us for a few more days before they leave for points west.
NCbob                           

Bob ya know the thought of sabotage came to mind when I was reading Dallas's post about the brake trouble! But yer sposed to wait until they get there to sabotage them, not on the way! LOL!

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Once BK gets his mitts on them my bet is he's gonna hide them away over there in TN and we won't see them too often in the future.
NCbob           

Now that ain't fair or true! They won't be hidden, and y'alls welcome to come on over anytime! We'll leave a light on fer ya!

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But to be fair...our loss will definitely be his gain and they'll all be quite happy with their new home.
NCbob         

Well I do hope that we'll all be quite HAPPY HERE! But to be honest I'm thinking (yeah I know that's dangerous {especially with out supervision} about maybe making a "small Busnut stop over anytime while passing thru grounds" outta the place. It won't happen over night, but a little here an a little there and we might have a cool little stop over point here!

AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE! ANYBODY & EVERYBODY ARE WELCOME ANYTIME!

and I'm sure Dallas 'n Cat feel the same way!
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2007, 08:54:58 AM »

BK, Dallas and I are really looking forward to getting to TN.  It will be nice to finally meet you.  So far Bob and Dallas have behaved but I think they are both napping so they can get rested up and run Jackie and I ragged.  We like being near B & J because they are both really neat people with a wonderful sense of humor.  Bob's is a little more whacked  than Jackie's, kinda like mine and D's. 

When Dallas said we had a pucker factor, he was not joking.  I was scared to death and he was to although neither of us let on to the other how bad we knew it was.  Fortunately God was with us and we made it safely. 

It is really nice to relax and just enjoy spending time with friends.
 
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2007, 09:33:43 AM »

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Bob and Dallas have behaved but I think they are both napping so they can get rested up and run Jackie and I ragged. 
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Let 'm sleep. Rumor has it they both need their beauty rest! And plenty of it, at that! LOL!
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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2007, 11:06:45 AM »

Dallas & Cat,

That story made me pucker up while I was reading it....LOL   Grin

Glad you got that resolved and your safe with Jackie & Bob.

Keep us informed on your trip, but a little less drama on your next leg.  Wink

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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2007, 02:38:45 PM »

BK, we know they're going to be happier than two kittens in a box, over your way, as will you and your folks when they get there but you have to understand that I don't manage to muster too many real friends because I'm such a weird character so I want to hang onto those few I have.  Cheesy

But like all good things we have to share our special people with the rest of the world so I have to turn 'em loose to make someone else's life as happy as they've made ours.

I'll shed a tear or two....but I'm a big boy now and will look forward to a happy reunion with them one of these days when we got over to TN to meet you and your family.  It might take a bit of doing 'cause we don't move as fast as some of you young folks but ya never know.

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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2007, 04:33:23 AM »

Well,
Here we are again, plugging along toward Tennessee!

We left Bob's place Saturday morning and spent the weekend at a flea market in Whittier, NC at a place called "Uncle Bills". They have RV hookups there with full hookups for $12/night.
It's right on US 74 and the campsites are all along the river. A really lovely place!
Across the road is Fallins RV supply where we found some stuff we needed. Prices were higher than camping world, but the people there were friendly and knew what they were talking about.

We left Uncle Bill's yesterday morning, (tuesday), and wound our way down through the Nantahala National Forest. The road is mostly 4 lane except for a 20 mile section that is narrow 2 lane with lot's of ups and downs and arounds. None of the curves was less than 35 mph and tour/charter buses use that road all the time.
There are some steep sections, but I made it quite easily with my 6-71 usually staying in 3rd gear. The down hill portions approach 7% but are seldom longer than 3/4 of a mile.

The bus ran well all the way except for a stupid minor glitch that was my fault. I fixed it with a small drill bit and a nail.

After we left Murphy, NC we turned off on Spur 60 and followed that to 60 and then to US76. A little bit of 2 lane but the speed was good. Once we reached 515 the speed limit went up to 65 in a lot of places.

We turned off on SR53 and headed west to Calhoun, Ga then south on I75 to Adairsville, Ga where we fueled and stayed at a campground for the night. The place is called "Harvest Moon RV Park" and has pool, cable, good wifi, (we are connected at 11mbps) and a lot of pull throughs.

Today we'll be heading down to Rockmart, Ga. to meet Charlie Beatenbo and his lovely wife for breakfast and then it's on to Rome, Ga. and across SR20 to the Alabama border where the road turns into SR9. Tonight we'll spend the night somewhere around Huntsville or Florence, Al. and should arrive in Union City late tomorrow night or friday.

Then the real work can start when we start setting up for the September Rally at Bryces.

I hope we get to see lot's of friends there, both those we've met and those we have yet to meet.

And that's all the news that is the news in the travels and travails Millie the Queen of the Silver Dollar.

More later
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2007, 05:03:20 AM »

Dallas & Cat,
   We are at Hazel Green, just north of Huntsville.  Call us when you get in the area.  Jack
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2007, 02:20:30 PM »

Dallas & Cat,

You are aware that we have relocated to Tennessee also.

We bought 17 acres in Bloomington Springs which is 70 miles East of Nashville off I-40 at exit 280.
(West of Cookeville TN on hwy 56N ) All the goodies and stores and plenty of attractions too...

When you get a chance check my bbs for a few pictures.

http://www.rvbus.net

Go to the bbs from there.

We are awaiting the power company to finish running lines and power to us which should
be done in a day or three... We have been on generator since July 15th full time which has been a bit expensive but the old Onan 10kw is still running.

As soon as we have power I will have spaces available with 30/50 amp power here in our almost flat valley land. Still working on the water situation but have access to a nice natural spring.

We will be looking for someone who is fairly able bodied to help out in getting the stuff done to make the place even more livable. I just bought a monster Trencher that needs a lot of work to fix up so I can dig a bunch of trenches for water lines and cables. I will have limited wireless internet available to a small area. There is plenty of work in the area in just about anything that you would want to do.

You ought to see the deer and other critters that visit here every day and night...

Deer, Weasels, Beavers building dams & lots more.

Anyway, Welcome to Tennessee......

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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2007, 06:28:51 PM »

And the good news is:  Dallas & Cat made it to BK's in Union City.  I just got off the phone with Cat and they'd even managed to spend a few minutes with Jack & Paula Conrad (for a few hugs...I'm told) and then on to BK's.

Not totally without mishap though...but I'll let Dallas tell you about it.

Just so happy they made it safely.

Whoopie!!!!!!!
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2007, 01:21:54 PM »

Yes, we made it safely.  I'll let Dallas fill you in on the details of our fixing a broken brake spring as soon as he has rested enough to get this thoughts to paper, or puter.  I will tell you that I got to pack some bearings and, strangely enough, that is something that I enjoy doing.  Yeah, yeah, I know....a woman that likes to wash dishes and pack bearings.  You all knew I wasn't quite right when you found out I was married to Dallas.  LOL 

Bryce drove us around a bit today to show us our new town and introduce us to a few vendors and friends.  Looks like an area we can be happy in.  I am looking forward to getting down to business planning the rally and working around here. Even the cats seem to like it here. 

How about you guys letting us know if you are definitely coming to the rally, are hoping and planning to come or if you know you definitely cannot make it.  That way we can kind of get a feel for how many to tentatively plan for.  We will be checking for more specifics soon but for now we need to have a rough idea of what arrangements we need to make.  Cat
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2007, 01:46:21 PM »

Hi Cat,

I will DEFINATELY  be wishing I was there Smiley  Oh, if you need to find an event to keep everyone busy, I know of a bus that you could have them fix the ac on  Smiley   I am glad you made it safe and sound, and I will be back to see you as soon as possible.

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2007, 04:11:41 PM »

Hi Dallas & Cat,

We are glad you made it to Tenn. safe and sound.

Good Luck in your new home town!

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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2007, 04:49:52 PM »

Glad you hear you have made it to Tenn.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2007, 05:03:21 PM »

Hey Cat,

If the AC problem is too easy to fix you could always have Dallas give that "hands on" class on bus polishing he told me about.  Smiley

LOL

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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2007, 06:23:59 PM »

Dallas and Cat, Hope you like you new digs. Too bad you have to put up with BK! Grin

Enjoy everything you do!

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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2007, 07:52:50 PM »

Dallas and Cat, Hope you like you new digs. Too bad you have to put up with BK! Grin

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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2007, 08:21:03 PM »

Bryce, you and I may never have met face to face but I feel quite confident that the Gaston's and the Farnsworth's will have a rosy future together.  But be warned...if you have a favorite coon or bear dog you might wish to keep him out of Ralph's way.  For all his gentile appearances...he's a tiger!

And for Dallas and Cat...They will be a influence on your life you couldn't possibly have imagined! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Jackie and I wish you all the best and know this will be a fantastic alliance.

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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2007, 05:51:31 AM »

Bob, I'm glad you didn't tell BK exactly what kind of influence we will be.  Let him find out for himself.  LOL

Ralph is actually being fairly calm, even around the black lab that is my new buddy. 

The area here is beautiful and the welcome was very warm and we know, without a doubt, that we are going to be happy here.

Lots of planning to do for the rally.  We sure want everyone to have fun.
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2007, 07:38:51 AM »

As everyone has said,

We made it to Union City, Tn with not too much trouble.

Our biggest problem was brakes.
It seems the P/O had new brake shoes, cans, slack adjusters, spiders, cams and drums put on all the way around.

I stupidly took for granted that they had been installed correctly..... my bad.

Since the shoes and slack adjusters were new, I figured the brake hardware had been changes also.

It wasn't.

The brake shoe retractor springs, which by the way are not common for most vehicles and so have to be special ordered had been in place so long that they rusted through and left me with a bottom shoe that would hang up when ever I came to a stop. The caused me to have to back up several feet at every stop light or stop sign.

After a period of time, the leading edge of the shoe wore enough that it would re-wedge itself after backing up and releasing. This was gradual and made it so my little 6-71 couldn't pull the hills as well as it had been. It also caused the bearings and tire to get hot... on the last check the tire was at 181.

We finally found a place to pull off the road at a little abandoned gas station where we jacked up the front axle and took everything apart.

The bearings looked good, although the grease in them was pretty old and dry. The spindle was in great shape, but you could see where it had had a failure at some time in the past and been repaired. the races looked good.
The grease seal was in good shape so I didn't want to remove it and chance messing it up, we weren't close to a parts store that we knew of. I had Cat push grease through as if she were hand packing except the bearing stayed in the hub. Then I had her spin the bearing in the hub and add more grease. This made sure there were no flat spots on the bearing faces or on the race. Finally I had her gob a bunch of grease on the front and back of the bearing to keep as much dirt as possible from getting in while we reinstalled the hub.
Packing the outer bearing was the standard hand packing job that we should all be familiar with.

Meanwhile, I was working on the brake spring problem. I removed the old retractor spring and dug through my pile of parts and found some short heavy coil springs that came in a bag of misc. springs I bought at a flea market.
Using these, I took a hacksaw and removed the pieces of the old springs and cleaned up the bar they attached to. I then widened the face on one end of the spring until I could insert it over the swaged end of the bar. Using vice grips, I tightened up the opening so it couldn't come off again and did the same to the other end.
Using the vice grips again I opened up one of the spring coils and turned it sideways so it could fit over the retainer bar on the shoe.
I made sure the new spring set was a bit shorter than the minimum extension of the brake shoes and put everything back together again.
Cat helped me reinstall the hub and drum assembly and I tightened up the slack adjuster until the drum no longer "rang" when rapped on with a wrench. I then backed it off 1/8 turn and reinstalled the tire and wheel.
We fired up the bus and tested the brakes a couple of times on the lot and headed down the road.

It is a real joy to know that you can stop at a stop light and expect to move again after the light turns green.

On fuel mileage, We put in about 35 gallons in Whittier, NC when I stuck the tank and found only about 3" of fuel in the bottom. We then drove to Adairsville, GA (about 160 miles), and put in another 65 gallons which brought our fuel level to almost 14".
When we got to Union City (about 530 miles) I checked the fuel again and we still have about 9" left in the tank.

Oil consumption was so little I can't see a difference on the stick from where it was when we started and when we arrived. The only oil use I can see is from the compressor unloader and that isn't excessive. I'll fix that someday soon.

On our trip we passed one Van Hool that couldn't climb as well as we could, (He probably outweighed us by 25K), but his mouth was slack and agape as our 54 year old coach made it's way around him. I wonder what his passengers thought when the fancy 2 story bus got passed by an antique GMC!  Grin

In the last 20 miles from Union City, A fella with a 35' 5th wheel and a big Ford Diesel kept trying to come around us. On the uphill ride, he could just about catch us, since I would slow down as the rpms dropped. On the downhill side, I would use the grade to pick up speed again and mash on the pedal as hard as I could, walking off from him until he also topped the hill. Then we would run about the same speed with him slowly catching up until the next little hill.

I finally had to back out of it and let him around when my temps started to climb into the 210 range.
I figured it wasn't worth blowing up the engine just for some fun.

And that's the story!

Dallas
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« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2007, 07:47:00 AM »

In the last 20 miles from Union City, A fella with a 35' 5th wheel and a big Ford Diesel kept trying to come around us. On the uphill ride, he could just about catch us, since I would slow down as the rpms dropped. On the downhill side, I would use the grade to pick up speed again and mash on the pedal as hard as I could, walking off from him until he also topped the hill. Then we would run about the same speed with him slowly catching up until the next little hill.

I finally had to back out of it and let him around when my temps started to climb into the 210 range.
I figured it wasn't worth blowing up the engine just for some fun.

And that's the story!

Dallas

Dallas, Sounds like something I would do ... Bet you had fun watching it knowing you were doing it with tried and true old school technology!
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« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2007, 09:45:14 AM »

Oh, yes....he had fun.  I think he still has that silly grin on his face.  He looked like a little boy that was beating the neighborhood bully at his own game. 
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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2007, 06:28:24 AM »

Those of us fortunate to know Dallas & Cat personally know so well that behind that wry grin of his lies not only a mischievous mind but a whole helluva lot of mechanical talent.  For the time I've known Dallas it strikes me that he must have a Master's Degree in Field Expedients.

There are many who have witnessed his application of this talent, I among them. It shouldn't take long for him to have Bryce's whole fleet working like a bunch of humming birds at a feeder.

And with Cat's organizational abilities (let's face it...anyone who can keep Dallas on the straight and narrow has to be a Wonder of the World) their operation should hum along with the best.

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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2007, 09:20:07 AM »

Bob, when the bank opens tomorrow we will go down and get a loan to pay you for those kind words.  LOL

Thanks!!!  Cat
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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2007, 10:09:12 AM »

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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2007, 07:40:11 AM »

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now you know what i love about huggy bear.

 When the million dollar s&s thinks he is going to pass that old bus he better be careful.

Has the date for th rally at bk.s been set. if not would like to suggest the ween end of Sept. 22 and 23.

Still remembering the great time with you, bob, and jack and all the great bunch at kyles rally.

I think the women had a great time also.

Uncle Ned
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ps I believe i have finally cured my heating problems. did not get above 195 leaving bob's going to Murphy up th 6 and 7% grades. crossed them at about 35 mph in second lockup. sure did like the jakes going back down the other side.
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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2007, 10:05:31 AM »

Sorry Ned, somehow you must have missed a post. The rally is set for Sept 6-10.  We will post later today with the updated details. 

Glad you did so well on the trip home.  Cat
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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2007, 02:47:06 PM »

NCBob,
I gotta remember that term, Field Expedients.  I love it!
Dallas is The Man, huh?!
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« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2007, 08:10:48 PM »


LMAO and ROTF reading about Cat packing wheel bearings. 
I don't thing T's gonna get into that work without 3 or 4 pairs of super gloves.   
Ya'll had a trip sorta like I predicted.   I predicted things would pop up, and Dallas would fix'em and off they'ed go again....for a while.   But, with Cat's talents...I figgured she would get Dallas and the bus to Union City.  No problem. Wink
I do have a problem.  Union City is too far for us because T cannot get out of her job during the new 'mesters.   The only places we can go now will be local, say less than 100 miles, so T can drive up on Friday. 
I'm deeply sadden'd that T'vill is no more.  I enjoyed that .... Cry
Oh well, I'll just have to be depressed.  Cry  I'm depressed now. Grin 
Oops, no more... Grin
Where's Union City?  I thought it was up north of Nashville?  I'll check here in a minute. 
Well, I hope all goes great for all of ya'll busnuts peoples.   I'd love to come out for the bash...it  would be in the car if I made it.  Sorta like my first NJT Roundup.   Drove a one day 6oo mile round trip for that one.  Enjoyed.  No bus, no bath, no chilled adult beverages...No motels...had to go.  Long drive too.  Still enjoyed myself. 
Wish the best of luck to all of ya'll Especially Cat and Dallas!
Best, JR


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« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2007, 09:11:17 PM »

JR, tell Terri she should try packing bearings.  That grease makes your hands feel so soft. I really do enjoy it and have already staked my claim to any packing that gets done here at BK's. 

We hate you two can't come to the rally but definitely understand.  Union City is in northwest TN, almost at the KY line.  It is a small town but beautiful around here.  Pretty good drive for you but we would love to have you for the day or even two.  We could find some place for you to sleep if you want to sleep over.  That way you could have a couple of adult beverages.  LOL 

As for my talents....I crack a mean whip!! 
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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2007, 04:32:18 PM »

Dennis, that was a term I learned well back in the '50's when I was in the Military and there weren't parts available...you had to fall back on your farm experience and make do......

JR, don't feel bad...we want to go like a bee wants to go to honey..but it's just not practical again this year. I can't believe that BK is having a problem putting a rally together...but for the price of fuel and the distance to where they are...it, for us, takes it out of the equation. Egads!  Everyone who knows us....knows we love to party..but for us it's just beyond reach.

A thousand miles round trip is not beyond the reach of the bus...but I can't get Sarge to part with the money!

We hope that more mid-westerners can make it and there's no doubt a great time will be had by all!

 Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

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