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« on: February 18, 2006, 12:24:44 PM »

This will take some getting used to...

I have seen similar boards in other areas, so it shouldn't be too bad.

There is one thing about MAK's "old boad" that I really liked, and that is having all topics
in a single list so I can browse up and down the list and read and respond as I choose.  One
thing I don't like about other boards is that everything gets broken into "categories" where
I have to search all over to see everything.  For somebody interested only in how to adjust
a height-control valve, that might be just fine, but given the tendency for topics to drift
a bit or somebody dropping an aside into a thread that might be useful to others, having
a base posting listed with no hierarchical showing of responses (with possible changed
topics) leaves a lot out of the interactivity of MAK's board, and that is the main reason I
don't visit the other bus boards.  MAK's was so much more "alive".

I appreciate the need to block spam.  I just wish we could keep that format with the
protection of logins with a valid email address required.

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2006, 01:53:32 PM »

It appears that you can order the display by the latest response by clicking on the right side column. When you come in, you can see which threads have had recent activity.

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2006, 04:06:04 AM »

Agree with CE about the dificulty  of searching usefull topics.the BNO boars works just fine, as does todays MAC board.

 The Mac lack of searchable archives (as BNO has)makes it almost useless for newbees that wish to get up to speed .

Don't like AT ALL the need to give E mail adress to register.

 My E mail is part of my business and endless spam is a BIG  time waister.

If the scum can get into the Top Seceret  areas of the Pentagon ,
 my feeling is you will be broken into at will, by some 9 year old.

I WIN! enough bogus lotteries in Zambia already.

The last "sign in" board for MAC was a huge disaster.

Hopefully,

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2006, 08:01:53 AM »

So set up a free email address someplace and use it just for this site.


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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2006, 11:54:30 AM »

Thank you all who have taken the time to comment, and to those who will comment in the future. 

I will take what I have so far and do some follow up on what can be done. 

What I have so far:

- avoid categories   Does this mean keep all under "General Discussion" for example?
- heirarchical listing - (tree view ?) - of posts
- avoid email requirement if at all possible. 
- searchable archives

I do indeed remember the dual BBS MAK rolluot - experienced it first-hand.  Am working hard to not have that happen.  With the good suggestions & feedback we are receiving, I don't think we'll have a repeat.

I'll be away with researching this list for a while (OK, and working my real job), but will definetly continue to check for additional posts & suggestions.

Our web-tv tester has responded that the interface works with their browser, so that is one item checked off anyway.

Kind Regards - and thank you
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2006, 05:18:47 PM »

Hi folks.  Looks like a good start to me.  I did not try the search, but that MUST be a part of the board. 

The thing I did not like about the old board was the need to load each reply to a thread.  I have satellite broad band so that I can use my Datastorm on the road, and the latency (22,000 mile trip back and forth) always slows each transaction down.  I guess the other way of saying that is that I can load the whole thread just as fast as each reply to a thread.

I will continue to play with this test, but it sure looks a lot better than the old board.

Looks like you can do most anything with the text -- not sure that that is a great thing, as some folks are going to go

Well, I guess the text stuff does not work yet, as I tried to really load up the word "crazy).

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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2006, 05:23:13 AM »

CRAZY Smiley Wink Cheesy


Looks like the underline is killing the text highlights.



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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2006, 09:36:39 AM »

Clarke,

When you mention avoid categories   - does this mean keep all under "General Discussion" for example?  e.g., just don't start a bunch of categories such as 6v92, series 50, old busses, new busses, etc., etc., etc.,?? 

I agree - and would like to just keep one general discussion.  LMK if that is what you are talking about.  Other comments also welcome!

Best Regards,
Phil
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2006, 09:44:11 AM »

Hi Jim,

Actually, the font thing works (now anyways) by typing your words,   ex; one, two three, then pressing on the font button, ex: color or italics.

Then that drops in a begin and end "TAG".  You have to put the words you want changed , inside the tags.    The tags are enclosed with square brackets.  The tag with the "forward slash" goes after the last word you want modified.

LMK if other questions.  Hope this helps,
Phil
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2006, 09:46:15 AM »

There are some quirks - especially with scrolling, underlining as craig noted above.

Hope this helps,
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2006, 09:49:41 AM »

Thanks for the bus pic.  really nice.   Roll Eyes

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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2006, 10:45:09 AM »

... You have to put the words you want changed , inside the tags.   [/color]


The easier way to use the highlights is to first type the message, then go back and select the words you want to change, the hit the highlight button above. 

It will enclose the selected text within the tags.

craig[/size][/font][/color]
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2006, 12:02:42 AM »

I like what I see so far! I'll learn how to goof it up b4 to long! LOL! Anything that I fool with much becomes a disaster in no time! I do like being able to just scroll down and read each post instead of having to open each an every one seperately! BK
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2006, 07:25:47 PM »

I do understand the desire to keep the same format - it is very clean and easy to follow.  It is also easy for me to backup in an automated fashion.  On the flip side, an issue that I face daily with the current board and code behind it has many security holes which are time-consuming to patch.  I have worked on some of them, but the board has a known reputation as a security risk, and it is difficult to get support in the forums due to that reputation.     On a positive note, the SMF board does make it very easy to export the data from the SQL database to other formats for things like a searchable archive.  The current perl-based setup has code wrapped around the posts, making content extraction more difficult. 

Thoughts? 

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2006, 09:45:25 PM »

I'm still learning to reply to this thing, so here's my first attempt.  That is exactly what I mean -- no separate categories for 6V92, MC-9, MCI, Eagle, Prevost, etc.  Too many topics bridge categories,
and if something useful shows up in a Prevost category that I might think I'm not interested in,
and I miss it.  There is a LOT of cross-pollination of ideas on the "classic" MAK board that makes
it so enjoyable an environment that gets missed in "categorized" boards (like some of the woodworking boards I'm familiar with.

Clarke

Clarke,

When you mention avoid categories   - does this mean keep all under "General Discussion" for example?  e.g., just don't start a bunch of categories such as 6v92, series 50, old busses, new busses, etc., etc., etc.,?? 

I agree - and would like to just keep one general discussion.  LMK if that is what you are talking about.  Other comments also welcome!

Best Regards,
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2006, 06:20:07 AM »

I agree with Clarke. Keep one general discussion.

I've pretty much stopped reading the yahoo groups bus boards because there's just too much stuff. I still get the MCI list via email, and will scan the header, but generally don't take the time to read it. I've stopped the other boards altogether.

I like to be able to open the board, scan for new posts, and chose the ones I want to read and/or respond to. This new board looks like it might aid that by listing new topics first.

I also like the notification on this board. I received a message that someone had posted a reply to this thread. Hadn't been able to check on the board for a few days, so it was nice to get a reminder. I suspect when the board goes live, that won't be necessary as I'll be hitting it automatically for my daily fix.

Also like the modify option, which I'm using now.  :-)  However I don't see the smiley icons. Hmmm.

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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2006, 06:27:14 AM »

Is there a way to "add" a subject category as a "tag" to the post to aid in searching?   Clarke enjoys the "open structure" option but Gumpy misses being able to peruse.

I wonder if it would be possible to set up something like the icon list above this box as I'm typing that would enable the poster or a viewer   to add a category, or two or three,  to a post to aid in executing the search function.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2006, 07:37:52 AM »

Amen to Clarke Echols request....keep it general discussion such as old board with sub list of reply.

I too want to see what all being posted in all category in one click. That include freebie, trading and wants.

This has since 1997 been my favorite board due to simplicity & instant respond of first 15 latest posts of all kinds.

Perhaps anything over 20 or 30 main topic posts will be programmed automatically go to archive data list that can be readily available to search.

Now this new board may be my answer to add limited size photo, cad or whatever within reply.

Better yet have icon for spell check....or am I over look something.

Might add if anyone vendor to reply in sub post ONLY their e-mail or website link to fulfill original post request...NO SELLING pitch but just ask requester to call them.  such as "Write to me uscoach@att.net" or "Click on www._______.com".

If any selling or advertisement posted...it will be remove via board committee.

After all if Ronthebusnut never posted his requester request...we would never knew Ron & what he has available to us. Although Ron mention "he has them or whatever in stock" SHOULD NOT be listed in requester post but ONLY his e-mail or website address to call or write.

I am sure vendor would help like the rest of us bus nuts to provide updated of proper useful information to avoid unnecessary cost & problem. Don't you think they have more today knowledge of information because of their volume bus conversion in repairs & parts business?

You can add icon "Vendor List" of paid vendors below or above "Additional Options"

By the way...there always be someone may not like this or that but having it running in most popular choice...other will get use to it later....so just hang in there....."not all road are smooth, dust free, bump free and newly paved" but we still want to get there!

I believe MAK &  Phil have something to look forward too !

I am learning everyday!              L o o k i n g  f o r w a r d                    t o  t h i s                    n e w   b o a r d                   e v e r y d a y !          P h i l ......w h e r e  h a v e  y o u  b e e n ?      Thank you MAK for allowing improvements made.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2006, 07:59:29 AM »

Amen to Clarke Echols request....keep it general discussion such as old board with sub list of reply.

I too want to see what all being posted in all category in one click. That include freebie, trading and wants.

This has since 1997 been my favorite board due to simplicity & instant respond of first 15 latest posts of all kinds.

Perhaps anything over 20 or 30 main topic posts will be programmed automatically go to archive data list that can be readily available to search.

Now this new board may be my answer to add limited size photo, cad or whatever within reply.

Better yet have icon for spell check....or am I over look something.

Might add if anyone vendor to reply in sub post ONLY their e-mail or website link to fulfill original post request...NO SELLING pitch but just ask requester to call them.  such as "Write to me uscoach@att.net" or "Click on www._______.com".

If any selling or advertisement posted...it will be remove via board committee.

After all if Ronthebusnut never posted his requester request...we would never knew Ron & what he has available to us. Although Ron mention "he has them or whatever in stock" SHOULD NOT be listed in requester post but ONLY his e-mail or website address to call or write.

I am sure vendor would help like the rest of us bus nuts to provide updated of proper useful information to avoid unnecessary cost & problem. Don't you think they have more today knowledge of information because of their volume bus conversion in repairs & parts business?

You can add icon "Vendor List" of paid vendors below or above "Additional Options"

By the way...there always be someone may not like this or that but having it running in most popular choice...other will get use to it later....so just hang in there....."not all road are smooth, dust free, bump free and newly paved" but we still want to get there!

I believe MAK &  Phil have something to look forward too !

I am learning everyday!              L o o k i n g  f o r w a r d                    t o  t h i s                    n e w   b o a r d                   e v e r y d a y !          P h i l ......w h e r e  h a v e  y o u  b e e n ?      Thank you MAK for allowing improvements made.
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Hi Jerry,  I really got a chuckle out of your rolling text.  Thanks for the message and encouragement!

Where have I been?  Well, mostly working toooo many hours, and working on this new board.  :-)  Where has our MC9 Moose bus been? It is in the shop now, we are having a trailer hitch fabricated, and some air-bag work done.  Also, having the oil changed from 10w-30 to 40 wt.  Couldn't get previous mechanics to use single grade in my 6v92.  They said - no worries - it is cold up here.  But, I still worried as I knew it wasn't per Detroit Diesel specs.  Adjusting brakes, general things - getting ready for more bussin' adventures.

I will spend time thinking on the different icons, and ways to work with vendors, and sub-replies.  I still have much to learn - I just saw Clarke insert a quote.  Didn't know you could do that either!!

The quest for knowledge continues....

Kind Regards,
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2006, 08:09:03 AM »

Is there a way to "add" a subject category as a "tag" to the post to aid in searching?   Clarke enjoys the "open structure" option but Gumpy misses being able to peruse.

I wonder if it would be possible to set up something like the icon list above this box as I'm typing that would enable the poster or a viewer   to add a category, or two or three,  to a post to aid in executing the search function.

Marc,  good suggestion.  But you are forcing me to think.   ;-)

I will look into that though.  If I understand correctly, keep one overall structure or board.  But tag topics to aid in searches.  That will be the goal.  If I am missing something - somebody let me know!

Best Regards,
Phil

Hmmm.  Wonder if I lost the smileys when I upgraded from beta to 1.06???  That wasn't supposed to happen.
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2006, 08:10:37 PM »

Hi Jerry,  I really got a chuckle out of your rolling text.  Thanks for the message and encouragement!

Where have I been?  Well, mostly working toooo many hours, and working on this new board.  :-)  Where has our MC9 Moose bus been? It is in the shop now, we are having a trailer hitch fabricated, and some air-bag work done.  Also, having the oil changed from 10w-30 to 40 wt.  Couldn't get previous mechanics to use single grade in my 6v92.  They said - no worries - it is cold up here.  But, I still worried as I knew it wasn't per Detroit Diesel specs.  Adjusting brakes, general things - getting ready for more bussin' adventures.

I will spend time thinking on the different icons, and ways to work with vendors, and sub-replies.  I still have much to learn - I just saw Clarke insert a quote.  Didn't know you could do that either!!

The quest for knowledge continues....

Kind Regards,
Phil

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What I mean “where you have been” LOL....this new board is more practical than anything of the pass….it about time it for the new improve board….thanks.

It takes a little longer to load up in the beginning…but must more ways to get our points across to the inquired reader....include me. Such as drawing & so on.

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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2006, 03:40:22 AM »

Phil,

It will take some time to get use to but, without a doubt, it will work.
The other guys have good points.
I'm sure you have a good thing here!
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2006, 06:38:35 PM »

Phil,

It will take some time to get use to but, without a doubt, it will work.
The other guys have good points.
I'm sure you have a good thing here!
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« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2006, 09:50:20 PM »

Hi Nick,

Be sure to put the path to the image - e.g., the http:// path, inside the img tags.  So, the bracket img close-bracket goes at the beginning of the URL, followed by the bracket-slash-img-bracket tag.  As follows:

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« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2006, 09:54:32 PM »

Rats, I see that didn't totally work like I expected.  Instead, it gave me an icon, when I right-clicked on the icon, it took me to a logon page at Yahoo.

more later.  I guess what is working is posting  an image off your hard drive, for members.  Additional options.  Will work on the rest.

Hope this helps,
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« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2006, 07:27:56 PM »

I am starting to get use to the new format - however, I miss the straight forward text a little.  This is more fun  Wink
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