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« on: August 13, 2007, 04:47:44 PM »

Sorry if you thought I was going to Tell you. I want to know if there is anyone out there Doing that..
How does it work out ?

I know N or Z would be best, But i have Loads of HO Logging Locos and stuff.. So I want to use all my Hyslers, Climaxs and Shays !!!!  Grin

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2007, 05:09:21 PM »

Enclosed trailer?  45 footer with a layout inside?

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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2007, 05:15:01 PM »

Paul,

Lets get creative.

How about a cool track that runs around the upper contour of the wall to ceiling transition.

Goes through the cabinets (painted like tunnels) and makes a loop through the bus.

You can make the shelf with all the trees etc glued on.

Do each room/part of your bus like a old parlor car etc.

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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2007, 05:26:20 PM »

Paul,
I'm an HO collector too.  No layout, just a collection.  I've seen an article somewhere, (in BC Magazine, I think) regarding a bus conversion owner who installed a slideout near the top of one bus bay.  On the slideout, he had built his N-gage layout.  That worked for him.  Another idea is to display your collection without actually building a working layout.  Of course, you could always use one or two sections of a collapsible table, much like a modular layout.  You're gonna want to consider roof a/c units, I'm thinking, to conserve bay space for your train stuff.  I'll be interested in knowing what you decide.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2007, 05:39:12 PM »

I like the idea of a track running around the perimeter of the bus. Merle Haggard used to have a setup like that in his house. Of course, in the bus would be more difficult. Merle used to say that he could get on the intercom and tell his wife to send him a drink and it would come through the walls on a flat car for him to pick up.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2007, 05:53:33 PM »

As I recall, from when my kids were into HO trains, a pretty decent layout out would fit on a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood.  I can visualise such a layout hinged about 4 + feet up on a living room wall allowing it  to drop down along the wall for more ordinary uses of the space.  Another possibility is in the rear cap over the engine.  It's all in what you want.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2007, 06:47:05 PM »

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Do each room/part of your bus like a old parlor car etc.

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DANGIT Cliff, that was my idea!!!

I love the look of the old parlor cars (i.e. the ones at Strasburg, PA).  Put that look in a 4107 and you got it!
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2007, 08:30:37 PM »

Mr. Superpickle...I wonder how many of the folks that read this post said..."What's a Shay?"
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2007, 08:36:55 PM »

I guess he doesent have a henway to go with it.
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2007, 08:40:31 PM »

Well, Im thunkin more on a Shelf layout. Around in the Bedroom compartment. U shaped and running Logging trains.. Lots of trees and Mountains.. I plan on a Single bed across the back and Desk on one side , wordrobe on the other with drawers and stuff.. 
The RR shelf wouldnt be more than 18 inches wide running 3 walls. It would have to be far enough down from the ceiling , say chest high or so. to have mountains. 
Do like the idea of the old Parlor Club Car design.. with the neat little Sash curtains and the Dark cheery wood like paneling.
Hummmmmm  Roll Eyes gots me thunkin now ..  Grin 
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2007, 08:42:26 PM »


Mr. Superpickle...I wonder how many of the folks that read this post said..."What's a Shay?"



I know what a Shay is!

But I ain't agonna tell nobody!

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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2007, 08:46:18 PM »

Mr. Superpickle...I wonder how many of the folks that read this post said..."What's a Shay?"
Jack


Oh , and I suppose they ALL knew what i was talking about when i said "Climax"  Wink
Go to Ebay. Type in "HO Shay Locomotive"

Better yet..

for the SHAY..
http://toys.search.ebay.com/Shay_HO-Scale_W0QQbsZSearchQQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfclZ3QQfgtpZQQfposZ88352QQfromZR2QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQlopgZQQsacatZ19128QQsadisZ200QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ2QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbs

or
for the Climax
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&fcl=3&from=R10&satitle=Climax&sacat=19128%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp=&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=88352&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=

or
for the Hiesler
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&from=R10&fcl=3&satitle=+Heisler+&sacat=19128%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=88352&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=

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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2007, 09:53:32 PM »

So very cool! Itís nice to know that Iím not the only one that would one day like to combine busses and model trains. I have a layout that I am working on for my oldest son. If I am lucky he might get to see it finished before I die. I like the idea of a slide out from a baggage bay. A while back I made the mistake of subscribing to Model Railroading. Those layout scenes look real! At times it takes the wind out of my sales because I want mine to look like theirs, and I just donít have that kind of time, skill or money.
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2007, 01:26:11 AM »

That HO track going through the cabinets and over the top of the windows on the shelf you guys are talkin about,,, already doin it and yes there will be a Shay. Jim
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2007, 04:11:16 AM »

Then you can set up a train of tanker cars to haul water from the kitchen to fill the toilet tank. Reflush times won't be fast, but the coolness factor would make up for that.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2007, 05:33:25 AM »

I would think that if you plumbed in a line from the compressed air tank, added a solenoid with variable controls, you could make a pretty authentic  "Ch Ch Ch ..." sound of an old steam engine.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2007, 05:51:56 AM »

The private car was the original "bus conversion".  Guess we've come full circle.
See some here:
http://www.aaprco.com/Cars/car_type_index.html
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2007, 06:04:54 AM »

I wonder how much a railcar like that cost? They are beautiful and elegant, would be nice to pattern some bus interiors after some of them. Some of the bus conversions companies should take a look, especially the entertainer converters. I do not like gaudy and so many new busses and even high end motor coaches end up overdone. Nice link Len.
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2007, 07:28:11 AM »

Interesting... Ya'll have probably heard me mention Merle Haggard's DL3 before. Through special agreement, he has been styling his buses after Santa Fe trains for that past 15 years. His personal bus is the Super Chief. It bears the colors, logos, and porthole windows of the original train. While the inside is not completely done up like the train cars, it does have a lot of throwbacks to railroad heritage, including a 20 foot etched mirror down the side hallway wall that shows an old Super Chief winding through a pass. I planned my paint scheme along these lines but had never thought of carrying the theme to the inside. I like it!

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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2007, 07:59:53 AM »

The Santa Fe heritage is even closer than that. LOL

I took the aluminum siding off the nose of my 4103 to fix the headlight can and found that at some time or another, a Santa Fe car had been used to make a repair on the front end. There is a big piece of the SFRR cross underneath the shiny aluminum.

As old as my bus is, (1952) I always thought fitting it out as a Pullman like in the old TV show "Wild Wild West" would be cool, but Cat said it looked too much like a house of ill repute on rails so I had to give up on that idea.

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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2007, 08:03:49 AM »


As old as my bus is, (1952) I always thought fitting it out as a Pullman like in the old TV show "Wild Wild West" would be cool, but Cat said it looked too much like a house of ill repute on rails so I had to give up on that idea.


You say that like she thinks that is a bad thing.  Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2007, 08:14:22 AM »

That HO track going through the cabinets and over the top of the windows on the shelf you guys are talkin about,,, already doin it and yes there will be a Shay. Jim

Pics Please  Grin You cant tease us like that and NOT post pics , you Ninny  Roll Eyes

Dont thimk a Layout in the Bay is a good idea, To much Dirt and Moisture. It would ruin the whole layout.. Not to mention all the Mice, Bugs and critters that might inhabit it for you.
Although, that Would add a bit of Realisim to it  Grin

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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2007, 09:20:39 AM »

You guys are just determined to make me go down in the "black hole" (Marilyn's name for our basement) and go through my plunder of back issues and find the article.  Somebody has that theme in a bus, and it looked great.  Somebody jump in here.  It's been a while.  Can't remember who or when.
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2007, 12:08:21 PM »

dirt and sritters in your bays....shouldn't be....ours have always been quite secure from dirt and critter as well as moisture.

if your running shays etc....you only need a few inches down one side of the bus and do a bunch of switchbacks
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2007, 02:26:03 PM »

I only know about HO and N gage, and HO would probably be too large for a coach, soossss that leaves N gage.  Yeah...the mind boggles here...well, my feeble mind anyway.   You could loop the right of way around the coach and end up with several levels. 

Yeah....I have been inside Mr. Haggards house and his setup was....unusual.  Inside the coach one could run into the usual TMT (too much track) thing, but I bet with some fun planning you could have a ball with a cool layout.

You could also play Mr. Addams and have earthquakes and stuff just by running the layout while running the coach down the road.  And....don't forget the firecrackers and smoke bombs and stuff like that, but then again inside a coach....hummmm. Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2007, 05:36:15 PM »

Dallas: I just read your last post and I remembered that someone asked superpickle how he knew what a brothel looked like. So......!!
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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2007, 07:37:03 PM »

Dallas: I just read your last post and I remembered that someone asked superpickle how he knew what a brothel looked like. So......!!

Stan,

I ain't proud... I use to work at the Union 76 in Lathrop Wells, NV many years ago. The owner also owned the  hooker house and bar next door!
We used the Wrecker to put up the signs for the place.

Grin
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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2007, 09:02:17 AM »

Dallas: I just read your last post and I remembered that someone asked superpickle how he knew what a brothel looked like. So......!!

Ummm  uhhhh  I saw the movie about Taluse Latrek he grew up in a Brothel. The Ladys called him "Little Tea Pot"  Grin
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