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Author Topic: Sam Walker convicted  (Read 5545 times)
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« on: May 19, 2006, 01:53:38 AM »

An excerpt from the story:

"Walker was convicted of one count of deceptive business practices, five counts of theft by deception and five counts of theft by deception for receiving stolen property for taking $256,016 from five customers."

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http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-b1-5walkermay19,0,5895955.story

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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2006, 04:51:37 AM »

Well, that's a start, although somewhat surprising.

Must be some concilation to you, but I suspect you're not holding your breath about getting your money back, since there's probably none to give back.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2006, 04:57:41 AM »

Bruce

I hope the trip home brings bigger smiles.
I know the one smile you really wanted to see and you got your wish.

Be well
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2006, 05:15:55 AM »

I came real close to referring a friend to Walker. I became aware of Walker after seeing their website where they lengthened a MC-9 and put in a different engine. I contacted them about doing the conversion on a passenger bus and was told they didn't have FMCSA approval for that but they would make me a great deal on motorhomes--buy one get one at half price! That's when I began my research and discovered that Sam was having a small problem.

I'm happy with the conviction. I really liked his premise of converting older coaches but not the deceptive way he tried to make it happen.

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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2006, 05:39:40 AM »

Wonder if his website will be taken down.

Would be interesting for someone to contact them about doing a conversion to see what kind of sales pitch they'd receive. I suspect it'll be business as usual for him.

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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2006, 03:00:05 PM »

they talking about this guy? http://www.walkercoach.com/main1.shtml
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2006, 03:06:12 PM »

Yeah, Crazy. That's the scoundrel.

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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2014, 09:40:05 AM »

I was checking this out after almost 10 years after. I think i and 3 other parties were the omly folks to actually get my money back from this creep. Now that i look back, it seems so long ago, but brings up alot of bad memories. However ive learned alot from this experience, i feel sorry for the folks he stole money from to pay me.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2014, 09:43:40 AM »

At that time i was Bruce_14, since then i changed my name, so i guess im not really a newbie, since ive lived in my bus for over ten years.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2014, 11:30:28 AM »

I remember seeing that guy's website way back when I was originally researching -- I recall it in particular for its focus on the double-decker Neoplan buses.  It doesn't look like there are any updates after 2008 or so, but that site is still up and running.  The original link about his prosecution is dead, so I didn't get to read the whole history. 

Cheers, John
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2014, 09:28:38 AM »

Current link to the old story:

http://articles.mcall.com/2006-11-17/news/3699662_1_customers-ritter-motor-coaches
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2014, 09:56:36 AM »

Hey Boogie; I don't know where you found this link, but thank you for posting. This pretty much sums it all up, i can't tell you how many folks i had contacted through this forum. Wish i knew then ,what i know now about this con, but as the saying goes hindsight is 20/20. I tracked this guy like a dog for years, sending letters to numerous authorities, it finally paid off, but would never want to go through something like this again. So many folks have been taken by this guy, so even i was surprised to get my money back, unfortunately it was other peoples money.
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2014, 12:40:54 PM »

I think 6 months is just a slap on the hand....he needs to spend several years behind bars and every dime he makes when he gets out goes to the people he ripped.

I have 0 tolerance for crooks and thieves!
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2014, 01:04:18 PM »

What happened to the guy that posted here who supposedly bought his business and was going to rebuilt it?  Dausch or something?  Just a matter of curiosity.  Search and you'll find a five-page or so thread about him -- edit, here's a link:

http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=10871.0

Looks like he hasn't logged in since July, 2009.

The restitution that Walker paid -- however he got the funds -- appears to have saved him a much longer sentence.

Cheers, John
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2014, 01:30:17 PM »

Yes Dukegrade; that was the whole premise of getting the police involved, we knew if he was facing jail time, that he would miraculously come up with the money he owed us. However it took years for that to happen,thus giving him more time to steal from other folks.
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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2014, 03:37:35 PM »

I went to his business outside Allentown PA a few years ago.  At first Sam would only speak to me trough an intercom and behind two locked doors.  The first question he asked me was how did I find him and was I a detective.  I said no I am not a detective and that his address was on his website.  He evently came out and I told him I was doing a bus conversion and was interested in some parts he advertised for sale.  He said that he was not able to show me any since he had a customer inside that was going to give him 20 million for a Neoplan he was working on.  Maybe I am wrong but it certainly seemed like a pretty shady business. 
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2014, 03:55:09 PM »

He probably thought you were the police,or someone he owed money to. Good thing you didn't do any business with him or you would have been conned out of your money.The guy is as smooth as a babies behind,the police told me that his game is hard to prosecute, cause it falls under a civil matter most times. Count your blessings friend.
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2014, 07:12:55 PM »

I spent about 6 hours with him at that place. It was very weird. He talked all of this nonsense about 10+Mil dollar coaches. We even left our bus with him, to fly home. After we got to the hotel, we had that "weird" feeling kick back in. We sent him an email asking him some questions. He emailed back ranting and raving, and finished with "come get your bus, I don't want to work on it anymore." Then he threatened to call the police, and tell them that we had a stolen bus, or something. We picked the bus up again, and were VERY happy that we did.

It was only later that we discovered all of this about him. Dodged a mortar shell there, not just a bullet! We were counting our blessings for sure.
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2014, 08:21:24 PM »

4 Years ago when we were looking for a bus he had one advertized 1980 MCI MC 9 that was used by a group called "Angel Fire" on the side Blue in color. Had a floor, tanks, and a shower in it.
He was asking 12,000.00. Said the motor had only about 60,000 miles on it. I e mailed him and asked about it. He said a lot about it but just didn't sound right. He called me 2 weeks later and said He had sold that one but had a better one if I wanted to drive up there to see it and maybe add some things to make it our own. It had tanks but he told me he took them out to put them in another bus but would put new tanks in it before it was done.

 I said first I didn't want to drive up there, could he send me some pictures 1st. He said he would but never did. I called back and told him we wanted to do our own work and did he have a shell? He said yes but they were still stretching it out to 45 feet???
I told him I didn't want one that big well we have some 40's but we would have to do the work on them. I told him forget it and never called back.

Later found out reading John316's post way back that I made the right decision and bought somewhere else. Man are we glad we did.
Thanks again John. Grin

This is his site also and still up.
http://www.busconversion101.com/Index.htm
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2014, 09:04:26 AM »

Hey Dave5; that link you posted , has a picture of the bus, that walker was supposed to be working on for me. The bottom right hand corner, with the wheelchair lift. When i went to his shop, to inspect the progress on my build ,that is what i saw, the rest of the bus was stripped clean. Sold for parts i imagine. The other photos are not from his shop, they were taken at other locations, to make it ''appear'' like thats the work being done at his shop. The whole thing is a facade,thats the only way i can describe it.
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2014, 05:29:33 PM »

My wife and I flew out there in 2007. We made a decision before we went that we would buy nothing on site. We would look it over and make a decision later. He had a bus that would work well for us and pressed us on a down payment. He would not start it because he said it needed some work and he would use our down payment to fix the motor and have it ready for us to pick up in a few weeks.

We went outside and sat in the rental car. We ALMOST went back in and wrote a down payment check. But we decided to stick with our original plan.

We did not sleep a wink that night in the motel. We decided his bus was a no go for us and only later learned he was a shyster. Whew! That was too close for us.

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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2014, 09:32:30 AM »

DKO; I can almost guarantee you that the motor had a half a million miles on it.It probably wouldn't start thats why he said it had some issues, if you would have given him your down payment, you never would have seen that money again. 
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