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Author Topic: Stuff I bought at the RV store, But didn't really need.  (Read 3930 times)
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« on: February 28, 2008, 06:38:09 PM »

OK, Looking to hear about stuff you bought for the Bus, Camper etc....

Because you thought you needed it, but turned out to be just dead weight or seldom if ever used....

Let me be the first up to the busnut confessional:

I bought one of the those hose end sprayers with the extension for cleaning out the black tank, never needed and has only been moved when it went from the Class C to the Bus.

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2008, 06:58:38 PM »

lets see, where do I begin.

3 vacuums, finally found a great one
auto leveling system from Sean
air over electric table and various other parts from Sean (free)
various vents
backup monitor & camera. I will use the camera, but now I have that neat gadget BoogieTC recommended so I can use my regular monitor.
antenna amplifier that goes to the old antenna that blew off on my last trip.
2 burner electric cooktop - I am trying to figure out a way to install induction cooktops in the same hole.
extra heater and small pump for hydronic system - design changed
extra wire, now I use boat cable
extra wire, now I use a roll of Ru6 antenna cable I had
many many extra screws, bolts and fasteners that once I got into the job, I figured out a different way of doing it, and didn't need these.
various clamps, same as above
various and plenty pipe fittings
extra one or two radio antennas
tools I bought because I though I would use them - prime example is the drill doctor, I jsut buy new drills, but may use this sometime.  Although you can never have too many tools, even if you don't use them, becuase you might need it sometime.
built in sprayer for the black tank, never installed it.
Extra valve on my water  manifold.  I got trired of running pipe and combined my sink and shower lines, since they are on the same wall.
relay for the water pump
24 volt m16 bulbs - although I may yet use them
various LED lights - although I may yet use more of them
various indicator lights I won't use
bag of switches
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2008, 07:12:02 PM »

We're not finished with ours. So can I have all your not used, don't want, extra stuff!!! Grin

I'm sure I will have lots of stuff left over too, but right now I've bought stuff I haven't had time to install!

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2008, 07:48:22 PM »

When I first got the bus, the black and grey water dump valves seemed to leak so I bought new ones. They just hadn't been used in years and were fine so now I have spares. I also bought new 12 volt directional lamps I thought I needed but they are now taking up space on a shelf in my garage. The nuts, bolts, screws, paint, etc, purchased but not used do come in handy though and I now have a tool box full of assorted hardware, wire, and connectors that have come in very useful when doing the regularly occurring repairs on my 55 year old rig, especially when out on the road or boondocking where there are no stores nearby.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2008, 08:43:19 PM »

I seem to have a weak spot for lights! I have bought 12v LED puck lights in bunches and have yet to install a single one. I bought a 6-pack of neat little 120v puck lights - they have been packed away under the bed so long i can't remember what kind of lights they actually are, but i do know they were pretty neat looking when i spotted them in Lowes. I bought a pair of 12v lights from a lumber type store that are designed to be put on decks. One of these is actually mounted under the medicine cabinet at the vanity. It is not wired up yet, but it looks good there,,, not sure where the other one is hiding. We were in Camping World a few days ago and i was looking at another set of puck lights with a real cool magnetic switch that is remote!!! I came so close to buying those but didn't. Thank goodness i was chided out of buying them by cooler heads. Who knows, maybe i have hit bottom finally. BUT,,, I am in the market for a nice led flashlight with a rotating head, if any of you know of one, let me know.
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2008, 06:16:45 AM »

lets see, stuff I bought but didnt REALLY need? The Bus. somedays it is a love/hate relationship. but hey you only live once and I guess if worse comes to worse they can just bury me in it. after all it seems to be trying to kill me anyway. beyond that I havent gotten far enough along to figure out where and when I can use all the crap I have laying around for it. I am still working on having a floor.
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2008, 06:23:21 AM »

Interesting thought, being buried in the bus, now if only I can find 6 really strong pallbearers lol.
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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2008, 06:29:21 AM »

Look at it this way that extra stuff is so easy to give away someone always needs it
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2008, 06:35:12 AM »

Amen Cody and luvrbus! LOL!
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2008, 07:34:57 AM »

Interesting thought, being buried in the bus, now if only I can find 6 really strong pallbearers lol.

Naw no need for pallbearers, just one crazy driver to launch it into the hole and climb out through the roof hatch if (s)he survives! LOL! Maybe Libby will volunteer, so's you two can be buried together!
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2008, 08:57:45 AM »

pallbearers are probably not the issue. I am sure there are plenty of people out there willing to help stick me in the ground. the hardest part is someone to dig the huge hole to fit the bus. on second thought I could just use the hole I've dug myself into since I started this project.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2008, 11:48:03 AM »

I have to agree with Steve,,,,,,,,THE BUS !   But it is really cool to drive, trying to save a few dollars so I can fill it up before fuel hits $4.00

Oh! Oh!   I almost forgot,,,, I bought a washer and dryer that I never hooked up.  Just remove then from the bus last weekend.  Brand new, anyone need them?

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2008, 07:21:08 PM »

I am no stranger to OCD....

My 40 foot shipping container that weighed 30,000 lbs must have parts, bits, excess and all kinds of bus debris stuffed away. I went in there last week and found an outside shower system that I bought to put in a conversion I worked on 7 years ago.
24 volt A/C blower motors from RTS, Flxibles and MCI's and even 2 of the 2-speed 12 volt motors out of a Scenicruiser a/c system. They still work ! Ohio Motor built them all to last forever. Fan blades from a/c condensers for some bus somewhere.

Brass Pex fittings, PVC fittings, wire, junk and new wire, old wire, bulbs and new junk still in wrappers.

What am I going to do with it all....... I have no idea.. It would take a couple of months just to dig my way in there to look...

OCD .. I collect the wierdest junk... Just never get-round to anything anymore....

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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2008, 11:19:06 PM »

I bought a regular RV propane water heater and furnace.  I ended up going to hydronic heating because I couldn't find a place to cut open the side of the bus that would line up properly and couldn't find room for air ducts.

I bought a used 7.5KW Onan generator and I bolted it directly to the bus.  It vibrated so bad that I was afraid the bus would come apart.  It was so loud the deaf could probably have heard it.  I was planning on leaving in 6 to 8 weeks so I ordered a new Powertech Ultraquiet generator the next day.  I got the Powertech installed in plenty of time.  It is not Honda quiet, but no problem sleeping directly above the running generator.  The bad part is when it came right down to the end the bus needed another good day or two of work and didn't go on the trip the first year and I could have had plenty of time to work on the Onan. 

(It was a good thing the bus didn't go that first year as I ended up putting in a new radiator and water pump before going on a big trip the next year.  The bus would have overheated in the Rockies.  Zero problems with new pump and radiator.)

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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2008, 06:26:32 AM »

Oh!  Oh!    Grin Shocked   

I forgot about the Pro Heat I bought and have never installed....  Anyone, want a Pro Heat?


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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2008, 06:37:36 AM »

Belfert-
That furnace wouldn't happen to be a Suburban would it?  I'm lookin!
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2008, 03:48:11 PM »

Belfert-
That furnace wouldn't happen to be a Suburban would it?  I'm lookin!

All the extra stuff was sold long ago.
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2008, 03:53:15 PM »

lets see, stuff I bought but didnt REALLY need? The Bus. somedays it is a love/hate relationship.
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Amen! I'm in a semi hate relationship with mine at the moment. Looking sideways at it with my 12 gauge about now.
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2008, 05:58:23 PM »

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auto leveling system from Sean
air over electric table and various other parts from Sean (free)
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2 burner electric cooktop - I am trying to figure out a way to install induction cooktops in the same hole.


Jim,

Not intending to hijack the thread, but...

It would warm the cockles of my heart if you'd pass along the stuff I gave you to one of the other nuts around here.  My goal was strictly to keep it all out of the landfill.

On the subject of induction cooktops, as you know we have a portable one, in addition to our two-burner LP built-in.  If I were to do the bus today, I would skip the LP entirely and just do the induction.  After some pretty extensive market research, I've decided that the built-in hobs and cooktops just don't offer the value for dollars spent.  What I suggest (and what we will likely do on our next, umm, moving home) is to make a recess into the counter for two or three portable units such as the one I have.

You might see if the hole in your counter is big enough, or can be enlarged, to do just that.  I'd make a "well" out of sheet aluminum, and under-mount it in much the same way you'd do for a steel sink.  Then support the bottom of the well with some 1x2 framing.  The raw edge of whatever counter top you have can either be "finished" in place (in the case of Corian and its ilk, or even granite) with appropriate power tools -- a countertop installer from a reputable kitchen cabinet shop should be able to do this for you -- or you can use some off-the-shelf nosing material.

FWIW, we are very happy with the "Mr. Induction" brand by Sunpentown, which now comes in several flavors.  Cheap and effective.  Just install some kind of switch to cut off all the power when you are not using it, as it seems to draw something constantly, with a low but audible high-pitch whine even when switched off.  (Although perhaps they've cured this in the four years since we bought ours.)

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« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2008, 06:02:22 PM »

It did not come from an RV store but the thing that keeps coming to my mind is the 500 watt Rockford amp I thought I just had to have.
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2008, 07:14:42 PM »

Sean,
I would certainly be happy to pass on any of the stuff.  Both to see someone else get some benefit out of it, to further our hobby, and to do the ecologically right thing.  Right now its sitting in my storage shed.  I was kind of waiting until I got more done / mostly done with the conversion, and then get rid of it all in one effort. However if someone wants the stuff, I'd be delighted to oblige.   I have used some, and still intend to use a  little more of that air conditioner hose I got from you, although there is a lot more there than I need.  I am using it for the hydronic system, short pieces for several difficult hookups where it is just the correct size.  The largest item I could get rid of anytime (free) is that air over electric table.  It takes up too much room.

The HTH leveling unit, I'm not sure how to "market" that, its pretty rough, and I will probably go with Pete Pappa's units when that surfaces to my active "to do" list.  For $50 its probably a good deal, but...  Next I'm working on lights, then heat, and some more cosmetic stuff along the way.

I came to the same conclusion as you did regarding the induction cooktops.  I also have the Supentown unit I bought just to try it, and those units are really remarkable. I like it a lot, efficient, cooler in summer, fast as gas to heat up, the best temp control possible. I am looking for a home unit for my house. I have a hole in my corian, and I have a number of pieces of the same corian I was able to talk the installer out of when they did my counter.  I've taken the supentown unit apart, and looked at how I could build it in to my current counter, and I have several ways to go.  First, I would buy a second one, so I'd have a two "burner".  Next I would either try to just fill in and match the counter, making it a whole smooth countertop again, or if that was not possible, I also have a thinner peice of the counter, I was going to cut it slightly larger than the hole left by the old unit, then cut openings in the corian to fit the burners, and two more to fit the control panels. Lastly, I'd bevel the edges so it would look ok "sitting" on top of the counter.  It would take some skill, and I risk damaging the supentown units when I cut them out of the exisiting plastic shell, but I think I can do it.  As a side note, I asked Home Depot Expo if they had any induction cooktops, and they said they have been getting lots of requests for them, and are going to handle 3 or 4 lines.  I have hopes that means that there may eventually be more choices, and lower prices as a result of competition (probably years away)

Jim

ps, mine does not whine.  I am installing a number of switches to stereo, TV etc to cut off all power to them when not in use to reduce phantom load.  Inverter plus some of these loads can really add up when parked for several days.  So that's a good heads up, I'll check to see if it draws any while plugged in and switched off.

pps - Your NEXT moving home?  whats this?
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pps - Your NEXT moving home?  whats this?



Well, rather than clutter the thread up any further, I will refer you to the following posts, regarding how our plan is to move onto a "trawler"-style boat whenever we are done with the bus (date unknown):

http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/2007/06/reversing-course.html
http://ourodyssey.blogspot.com/2006/05/big-sur-coast.html

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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2008, 10:00:55 PM »

Sean,

Can you tell me more about your cooktop or point me in the right direction. I was about to make a decision on a propane stove but I hate the heat they produce. This induction cooking has caught my attention. Do you have any photos or a link to where I can learn more about them? Prices?

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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2008, 10:07:14 PM »

one place is to go to Amazon.  its where I bought my unit.  or just google, but be prepared to spend some time surfing.

Induction heats only the pan, the burner stays cool (except for conduction from the pan).

Uses much less electricity than a normal electric.

Regulates heat to within several degrees of where you set it, so its marvelous for cooking - you don't burn stuff, and yet it will give full power to heat up to the desired temp.

since only the pan is heated, less heat in a small space (your bus)

The only downside is that you  must use a pan that is magnetic.  As Sean points out, just take a magnet to Bed Bath and Beyond, and buy a pan you like that a magnet sticks to.

I bought the "Mr Induction" by Supentown to try and play with and I'm totally sold.
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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2008, 09:32:34 AM »

Can you tell me more about your cooktop or point me in the right direction. ... Do you have any photos or a link to where I can learn more about them? Prices?


Laryn,

Jim's already beat me to the punch, but here is a link, with photos and list prices, to the Sunpentown line:

http://www.sunpentown.com/inco.html

Sunpentown manufactures some of the least expensive, portable, table-top induction cooktops, and they are widely available in the US at retail stores, along with many sellers periodically on eBay.  Note that, in Europe, where induction is much more popular than here, a single "burner" such as this is called a "hob", and so you will see that term used in a lot of the literature, i.e. "induction hob."

There are several companies that make built-in hobs that you can install in a countertop, either single- or multi-burner.  Unfortunately, they are very expensive right now.  About a decade or so ago, the major US appliance manufacturers had jumped on the induction bandwagon, and it was possible to buy a regular, 30", four-burner cooktop using induction for a reasonable price.  Consumer demand never materialized, though, and so they all abandoned the market, leaving it to the Europeans and the specialty restaurant business.

The only down side to induction cooking is that it requires ferromagnetic cookware.  Bring a magnet with you to the store -- if it sticks to the bottom of the pan, the pan will work.  If not, it won't.  We found the Farberware Millennium Stainless brand has enough ferrous material in the base to attract a magnet, and it works well on our Sunpentown.

HTH.

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« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2008, 09:53:40 AM »

I think that passing stuff that didn't work out or isn't needed to other busnuts is an excellent idea, I was given 4 great batteries for my house part of the bus, that left me with a good 8D that was soon to be an orphan, didn't take me long before I found not only an adoptive parent for it but a passing busnut to haul it to them, all these things help and maybe a part like the spare tire part of the board would make it possible for these orphans to find new homes, what is the thoughts on that.
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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2008, 06:23:29 PM »

One of my favorite lines from a movie is and maybe the title too, don't remember (CRS). "Pay it Forward".

I have always thought of that when someone is in need and the stuff I thought I needed, and don't, so I try to Pay it Forward.

The problem with me is I'm always in need! Grin

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