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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2008, 07:09:08 PM »

Exxon paid $100 BILLION in taxes last year.   That's a lot of cash.
Nationalizing our fuel supply would be an unmitigated disaster...IMHO.  Who remembers when Nixon tried to micro manage our petroleum industry?   The feds cannot manage anything.  They make one stupid decision after another.   And throw money uselessly at any problem.   
Liberals think $5 a gallon fuel is desirable...conservatives are too spineless to take a stand.   Liberals are the devil reincarnated...modern conservatives are a bunch of sorry losers.   What do we do with our two party system?   I have no idea.
The crude producers are who is getting rich.  Refiners make a decent living.
My feelings cannot be hurt by talking politics.   
The only thing that's going to bring fuel prices down is for us to use less of the stuff. 
If we have a good recession, you'll see prices come down. 
America is the 3rd largest oil producer in the world...we could be the 2nd if not for the tree-huggers. 
Another reason that fuel is so costly is our blends for clean emissions.   Saw a bit that stated the world is cooling at a rather alarming rate...and has been doing so for about 10 years.
Yet we are still trying to control "Global Warming"!!!!!  Hep me.  Save me from our government!   Embarrassed
Have a happy day!  JR


 
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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2008, 07:13:04 PM »

famous last words
"I am from the government, I am here to help you"
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2008, 07:43:48 PM »

Yes JR,

Our tipical Goverment...

You cut yourself. Call a gov. agency to get you a band-aid, after they research the need, find all the mfg.'s who produce them, locate contractors that can deliver,

then put the bid process into play, your wond healed about 10 months ago.....

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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2008, 07:55:53 PM »

America is the 3rd largest oil producer in the world...we could be the 2nd if not for the tree-huggers.


Because I don't really want to see one of these horseheads in my back yard.

 
Another reason that fuel is so costly is our blends for clean emissions.


And I don't want my city looking like this.

I do however agree that the government should not be running the oil industry, or any industry for that matter. In fact this document http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution does a pretty good job of laying down guidelines for a good government. However, left to their own devices, men (and women) in positions of power can and do screw things up to a fare thee well.

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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2008, 08:01:05 PM »

You guys are missing the solution to the oil prices, it's very simple, we just invest in oil futures and think we'll make money, as soon as we do that the bottom will drop out of it. lol
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2008, 08:02:45 PM »

America is the 3rd largest oil producer in the world


Here is the reference http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/country/ to back up that claim.

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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2008, 08:16:06 PM »

What do we do with our two party system?   I have no idea.

I seriously doubt that you have no ideas. I'm sure you have ideas almost as good as mine  Wink  the problem is that they probably go against the status quo, and let's face it, people in power like to stay in power.

I also believe that Pogo (Walt Kelly) had it right.

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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2008, 08:19:05 PM »

Save me from our government! 

How Modern American.  Undecided

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« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2008, 08:19:50 PM »

Even as the 2nd largest producer, we are still importing a whole lot more than we produce.  The USA would probably be in a far better position if we didn't have to import oil.  No more worrying about the value of the dollar.

I saw some number a while back about about the known oil reserves in the USA.  I calculated that if we could pump all of our needs from our known oil reserves that our entire oil supply would be depleted in around 30 years.  The world oil supply will last around 41 years if no new oil is found.
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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2008, 10:30:14 PM »

If I don't like how much Bill Gates makes, I don't have to buy a computer.  If I don't like the prices that Sears or Macy's or WalMart or Safeway or KMart or Radio Shack charges I won't go there.  But when it comes to an industry that literally controls our entire country and in my case getting to and from work, I can't go elsewhere to buy fuel-I'm stuck to the whims of the petroleum industry.  Granted, if I had time I could go make BioDiesel, but now I don't-so I'm like a puppet to the gas stations.  With an industry as powerful as the petroleum companies (could you imagine what would happen if they all shut down?), this is why I believe this monopoly needs to be broken by government intervention.  Then with the lowering of all gas prices, we will all have more money to pour back into our struggling economy.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2008, 05:47:40 AM »

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America is the 3rd largest oil producer in the world...we could be the 2nd if not for the tree-huggers.

Because I don't really want to see one of these horseheads in my back yard.

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

If you are not using any petroleum products, your statement is valid.

I resent the attitude, "I am doing fine, you can have have the dirty end of producing oil"

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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2008, 06:32:36 AM »

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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2008, 07:41:35 AM »

Well said TomC.

Yes we don't need government's micro management but part to their duty/responsibility is the protection of ALL the people when to few gain to much control. Government has stepped in before to balance the powers within the airline industry, telecommunication industry, medical industry, even Bill Gates.....why not the oil industry.

Ok, I'm leaving now.

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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2008, 09:13:04 AM »

The gummermint broke up standard oil because the fear was J.D. Rockerfeller had too much power. The reality was that ole JD used that power to lower the price by eliminating middleman markups. When he started, kerosene was selling at more than $3/ gal. When standard oil was busted up, JD had lowered the price to less than $1. All the middlemen & his competition devised the scare tactic marketing campaign to take away his power. Seems to me it worked. The scare tactic marketing also worked well for DuPont when their royalty rights expired on freon12. But that's another story . . .

You might think you don't need to buy a computer directly, but I doubt you could function if no one had one. It is the exception when you can buy ANYTHING without one. I'll bet you can't perform your job without one - what happens if the 'puter crashes?

I wouldn't mind a horse head in my yard! Have you heard of fences, bushes, or trees?

As for more gubbermint intervention, I don't know how I can stand any more.
What ever happened to free market?
Or better yet, personal accountability for your own actions?
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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2008, 09:56:55 AM »

At risk I have the following to offer:

I feel the gov't does one thing well and that is to defend the country. May cost alot of money but worth it. I will not commit as to whether we should be where we are currently, but when needed the military does its job as told Extremely Well.

I believe that the gov't can eliminate some of the many blends of fuels and simplify the storage/deliver/ manufacture of fuels. Cut out the spring/ fall / regional blends etc.
 
Make EPA reg's that would work and still allow oil refineries to open and be built. This would increase the thru put and cut out the down time risks of the production. I believe increased supply would allow more competition and hopefully lower prices.

I would love to see Nuclear Energy come back, but with one gov't approved designed reactor, not the one off every time...Less expensive,

Stop the subsidy to ethanol fuels, Do not need to pay to produce fuels ( costing 121 % to produce amount of energy recouped in the produced fuel) Have my Post Toasties costing $ 3/box instead of $ 6.

I am for free markets and letting things find their level within the big scheme of things.

Any one's thoughts.

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