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Bob Gil
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« on: April 16, 2008, 03:11:59 PM »

I am wondering if I need to put a door back here?  It looks like there was one there in the past you can see the hinges.  It is the side where the radiator is, the door would close the engine compartment off from the radiator section.  Would it help the air flow thur the radiator or not make much difference at all?
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008, 03:14:44 PM »

Hard to tell-maybe a couple more pictures so we can see more-wider angle.  Good Luck, TomC
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2008, 04:18:13 PM »

that is about every thing in that door on the left rear.  If I got back any futher it would only show the side of the bus.

That is the radiator on the left and the front of the compartment to the left.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2008, 04:45:56 PM »

Tom C here are a few more pictures as you requested.

I tore the bed out to get these pictures of the top of the battery compartment and the engines compartment to show the opening where ther was a door at one time.

Should I replace the door with another one or leave it open any ideas?
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2008, 03:44:10 PM »

does any body else have a door between the radaitor intake and the enigne compartment?

I have not figured out if I need to put a door where it looks like there might have been one before the fire?

 Not too long before I will need to make a dession to or not to put one in.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2008, 04:11:13 PM »

Bob,

I will tell you from experience that if you don't close this off, you will get overheating.  Put the door or access panel back in if you can.

Also, get rid of the gas can.  You don't want anything in front of the fins like that blocking the air flow.

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2008, 04:43:11 PM »

O yes I do plan on getting rid of the gas can but I can't do it yet it is the only think I have for a fuel tank until I get the fuel lines replaced.

Too many things to do and so little time.
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2008, 05:52:47 PM »

Bob, Yes put a door here or block off. You need fresh air pulled through the rad. There is a fan on the other side that pulls air right?  Tom Y
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2008, 07:42:50 PM »

   Was it a door or some sort of screen to keep the big chunks out?  Can you find a picture of that type of bus with that area exposed?  Do you know what it is/was? ....  Cable
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2008, 11:51:37 PM »

I have not seen any kind of picture of a bus like this one.

It does have an out side screen door, the question was about the area that would separate the intake area to the radiator from the engine compartment.
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2008, 05:45:23 AM »

Bob, it appears that there was a door of some type back there, I say that because of the hinged thingy's on the left behind the gas can, looks like a lock hasp to me.  I think I understand there is a screened door on the side of the bus.  Am I right?
I saw one of the Dino Marcopolo's they are talking about in the other post that looked similar to your door.  It had the screen door and what appeared to be an access door deeper in to provide limited access to the engine compartment, about what I am seeing in yours.  Those access doors would remain closed in operation in order for the fan to pull as much air into the radiator as it could. 
It looks like there is another either door or just a wall directly below the one that appears to have been hinged.  (The one with the two hasps on the post.)
Can you move the gas can long enough to take a photo of the hole thing, another of the door on the outside.

I think when you asked the original question I think most of us thought you meant did you need an outside door...not the one further in.

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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2008, 08:28:28 AM »

  Jack was correct. I had assumed you meant the outside door. Follow the concensus and close the inside door, it's a temprature thing....Cable
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2008, 11:13:52 AM »

Thanks guys I was thinking the same thing but was not sure.

When I looked at it and saw what does look like hasp two of them I was not sure.  The more i looked at them the more I though that they might have been used as hindges.  I did not know if I would need the door there for cooling or not.
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2008, 01:11:30 PM »

I think it is an access door.  Is the panel directly below that hinged or set in place?
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2008, 02:27:51 PM »

the panel that you see in the picture with the fuel can is the frame of the bus.

I think the door that was there would have gone from the top of the frame to the bottom of the beed or top of the engine compartment.  It looked to be framed out with angle iron on the top and right side the frame on the bottom and a 2x2 on the right side.
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2008, 03:16:14 PM »

Bob,

I will say it again:  You will have overheating problems if you don't seal this door.

The opening is there for engine access.  You need to seal it with something removable.  Hinges are fine, but not necessary.

I have such a door in my bus -- it comes out completely for maintenance.

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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2008, 06:30:02 AM »

As most of the above have posted is correct.

Bob….your answer is to put a metal (no holes or screen) door to block off engine’s heat from engine compartment to avoid heated air getting into front of radiator. The outside door is screened or louver or slotted to allow cool fresh air into radiator.

The bottom-line is to achieve the coolest air for both radiator and engine’s air intake to air cleaner. Make sure all isolation joints are sealed with approved sealant and opening is blocked.

FWIW

Sojourn for Christ, Jerry
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