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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2008, 07:43:46 PM »

"10 seconds with a bolt cutter"

Not if he puts one of these dudes on.
http://www.masterlock.com/cgi-bin/style_search.pl?dir=/residential/highsecurity/&style_id=A4&sub_style_id=C473
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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2008, 07:47:01 PM »

I may end up putting a lock on the filler too!

I have a cam lock on the fuel door.  This was more to keep some idiot from putting something in,

then stealing at the time.  But is much more useful now.

I agree though that, "make it more difficult" and they will move onto an easier target.

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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2008, 07:49:24 PM »



Glenn,

I am using a few of these at remote sites.

Hard to cut for sure, and in a limited access area like behind a fuel door, almost impossible.

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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2008, 08:02:43 PM »

9 seconds......... with a stick of dynamite.


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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2008, 09:20:49 PM »

What Jack has done is a deterrent and nothing else. Itís all you can do. I have to break into things all of the time where I work and there is nothing that will stop someone who is determined.  Higher quality locks and hasps only slow things down somewhat. What Jack has done is complicate things a bit for the thief. Instead of just a hose or pump and someplace to put the fuel, the thief would need more. For an inexpensive hasp, a hacksaw will work well. Also bolt cutters on the lock or on the hasp eye loop. Moving up the tool list how about a cordless reciprocating saw with a nice bi-metal blade. If he had power and noise was not an issue a 4 Ĺ inch angle grinder with a metal cut-off blade would work. Better yet, a pneumatic cut off wheel using the bus air. I can pick just about any padlock with a traditional tumbler using a modified hacksaw blade and a small screwdriver. I'll stop it there. Anyways, I want to put something on my fuel filler also but mine is designed differently and I am not sure how I want to do it. But like Jackís, it will serve only to make someone elseís fuel a more worthwhile take.

Anyone have one of those nice big gun safes (I do). I can have one opened and cleaned out in less than ten minutes. The sad part is that it doesnít take any skill, just the right tool (Iím not talking about a plasma cutter or acetylene).

I use a similar saw to the one below at work, and it is amazing how well it cuts the big stuff:

http://www.dynamic-saw-blade-sharpening.com/metal-sawblade-machines.html
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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2008, 09:25:18 PM »

One thing I failed to mentioned. The thief, unless he has previously checked, wouldnít be expecting that lock so the great odds are he wouldnít have anything to defeat it available. I think what Jack did is a great idea.
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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2008, 09:50:00 PM »

Hopefully, the c*cksucker doesn't pull the plug from the bottom of the tank.
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« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2008, 03:51:07 AM »

Barn Owl, you're right. Given a little time and the right tool, just about and security device can be defeated.

Note: As I started trying this, a news channel in Atlanta had a news clip about police arresting three guys that were going around to apartment complexes and siphoning gas from vehicles. One guy they interviewed had been hit three different times. He figured his loss to be around $350.00.

Now, back to our regular scheduled program:

What I was gonna say is, that most security devices (locks, hasps, etc.) is only designed to keep the honest person out. I personally think Jack's idea is sort of neat and cheap. I've considered doing something like this myself.
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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2008, 05:15:56 AM »

     My main concern was those few times we stop at a rest area, truck stop, Walmart, etc. for the night. Any noise created while trying to remove the lock will give me time to step out the door with my 45 cal. Ruger. I agree if someone wants the fuel bad enough, they will get it. However, most crooks are looking for an easy target. In any parking area, which is easier, a vehicle with a locked fuel cap or all the vehicles without a locked cap.  Jack
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2008, 05:32:13 AM »

Jack...don't forget...I'll be the one in the backgroud with the ray gun...you won't need the little one!
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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2008, 07:37:23 AM »

You can be sure anyone wandering around a truck stop with bolt cutters, saws, etc, or making the rounds between the vehicles, will be quietly observed by every set of eyes in the place, and no doubt challenged by more than few.

Locks on the fuel are a wonderful thing to make the perp look elsewhere, and some piece of mind for the owner.

Thanks for sharing, Jack!

happy coaching!
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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2008, 09:02:53 AM »

...as my dad always said 'Locks only keep honest people out'.
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