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« on: April 23, 2008, 12:37:30 AM »

Interesting video on YouTube:




FWIW. . .

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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 03:23:35 AM »

Hi Russ,

Without a doubt, DRIVER DEAD!

Scary....

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2008, 05:20:15 AM »

Now why couldn't they have crashed my old bus instead of that new bus. I would have been more than happy to have traded with them. Grin
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2008, 05:58:16 AM »

wonder what speed that was at?
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2008, 06:08:54 AM »

Hi Russ,

Without a doubt, DRIVER DEAD!

Scary....

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Have to agree, but it looks like the passengers would mostly be OK. It held up pretty well I thought.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2008, 06:28:05 AM »

Is it okay that the driver dies while the passengers live?

I assume this was the required crash testing for a new model.  The feds require this for passenger buses.  Silver Eagle Mfg says they can avoid crash testing their passenger buses by using the exact same jigs used to build the original Eagle buses that were already crash tested.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2008, 06:44:54 AM »

About ten years ago or so I inspected a company that had bought the site of a former Collision Test Center just west of San Berardino, CA.

They had a 400 foot track that lead to a cement wall that they did the front end crash tests on.  They had an old Olds 88 motor that they would dial in for the EXACT MPH they were doing the test at.  There were posts there for the dozens of cameras.
What I remember about that 10X102X2 cement wall that is was as smooth as a babys but, not a nick or scratch on it!  It was built that way.

At the 200 foot mark they had a place set up to do side, angle and read end tests. 
It had to be cool to see when it was running.
I still can't get over that smooth cement wall!
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2008, 07:54:39 AM »


What I remember about that 10X102X2 cement wall that is was as smooth as a babys but, not a nick or scratch on it!  It was built that way.


That must have been some special cement.  When a vehicle hits a bridge support or abuttment, it does leave a mark, sometimes knocks entire chunks out.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2008, 08:37:19 AM »

Well, you know they did a mock up of a nuclear containment dome in the 70's and enacted an airplane hitting it at 400MPH.  I recall it lost about an inch and a half of the cemont.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2008, 09:09:40 AM »

Yup, I remember a test that crashed a F-16 into a test structure built to the same specs as containment domes.  Then again they use a very high density concrete for those too.  If I recall correctly, the concrete in the domes is almost twice the density of 9 sack mix.  I would say there is a good chance that the vehicle crash test slab used a similar mix.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2008, 09:14:23 AM »

Just to relieve your anxiety on bridge abutments - They are alway built by the low bidder Grin
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2008, 09:14:48 AM »

I remember reading about one that was supposed to be an airliner.  Didn't know about the F16.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2008, 09:15:36 AM »

Stan...so was the shuttle(s). 
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2008, 10:35:03 AM »

Just to relieve your anxiety on bridge abutments - They are alway built by the low bidder Grin

Thanks.  That makes me feel much better about it.  Grin  Weak porous concrete makes for a softer impact.  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2008, 10:37:13 AM »

Just to relieve your anxiety on bridge abutments - They are alway built by the low bidder Grin

I am really curious as to what is not built by the low bidder?

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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2008, 10:57:42 AM »

what is not built by the low bidder?

The bus you build your self!
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2008, 11:06:24 AM »

Richard,

Anything I built was built to the spec that it would kill the most Commies and our guy would return to fight another day.  Everything I did was Pri 2 and I had tons of cash. Cool  The few people that seriously questioned me ate the big wiener for their trouble. Angry  They were few.  Lips Sealed I had tons of funds and always managed to return about 20%....I set my budget and then struggled to live within that constraint Wink Cheesy Grin Grin.  Yeah, I was a civil servant but I often was not civil Shocked

You know at least one Richard,

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2008, 01:20:28 PM »

I'm not up on the new buses. What manufacture was that?
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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2008, 02:19:34 PM »

BO,

Navy grey buses that put to sea and traveled in harms way jam packed with red blooded Patriots.  "Any time Baby, anytime" was more than a motto.  I also spent ten years serving those long black tube shaped ships that regularly sunk filled with semen.  Yeah, those too.
And that was a group without peer.

Been 18 years since I have been there.  I still miss it and them.  Like Bo Jangles, I still grieve the ones we lost.

"What mfr. was that?"  Huh Cheesy Grin Grin  Good one.  Actually, built by the lowest bidders.

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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2008, 02:59:55 PM »

Opps, supposed to on the thread about Bill's bus on Ebay.  I got mixed up somehow.

Sniping started with Ebay auctions because some bidders get the urge to win at all costs and if another bidder doesn't wait until the last possible moment they could be outbid by the guy who has the urge to win at all costs.  I have seen stuff on Ebay sell for way more than it is worth and sometimes for more than retail at a regular store.

Stuff at live auctions can also sell for more than it is worth if two bidders decide they both need to win.  I quit going to live auctions because any of the good stuff went for far too much money.  There were cases were I could get the same item new for what the bidding ended at.
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2008, 05:31:47 PM »

Richard: Only government agencies are constrained by the low bidder concept. Many if not most work done for private companies is either design-build contracts or invitation to submit a proposal.
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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2008, 07:52:05 PM »

Well I'm glad to see that video.  I was wondering what would happen in such a crash.  Now I don't have to sacrifice one of my buses to find out.
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2008, 09:46:02 PM »

Back to the thread....

I think it was an MCI 102EL3 Renaissance model.

The "J" model has different baggage door handles for one thing...

Foolish question of the moment: "Did the airbags go off?"

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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2008, 07:52:11 AM »

I saw what looked like a airbag going off in one of the veiws. Don't know if it would do much for the driver.
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