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« on: April 29, 2008, 02:05:05 PM »

I would like to find a 50 amp, male, straight blade, four prong, covered, weather proof, receptacle that could be flush mounted to the bus.  I want to open my bay and take out an extension cord ( not hard wired to my breaker box ) and plug it in to the bus and pole. I thought this would be easy, but I cannot seem find one ....do they exist?

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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2008, 02:21:34 PM »

Heres where you get all that unsolicited feedback.  Hope you don't mind, just want to point out something.  Food for thought.

If you are at an RV park, and you leave the coach plugged in, if the cable is not hardwired, its very easy for someone to come along and just unplug it at both ends and carry it away.

I must be honest, I've never actually heard of this happening, but this was why I at least made my plug inside a bay. Although I give up a few feet, if the bay is locked, you can't just unplug it.

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2008, 02:34:07 PM »

Your right Jim. But either way, with the price of copper what it is, it's a good idea to at least "keep an honest man, honest" by somewhat securing it.

Maybe an access hole in a bay door to one side so you can plug it in inside?

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 02:59:46 PM »

Here is one way.  Pretty pricey at $99 for the CR6364 female and $86 for the CR6365 male.  I think the Marinco brand is even more.

http://www.aplussupply.com/ps/twist/crcs.htm
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 03:00:49 PM »

 Is this what you want?
                                      http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/15155/377%20710%201639/0/Adapters,%20Plugs%20/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/30/0?N=377%20710%201639&Ne=0&Ntt=Adapters,%20Plugs%20&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&page=CategoryDisplayLevel1&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=5002&subdeptNum=9&classNum=311

In hindsight I would mount the Male plug inside the bay with a floor access panel.  Roll Eyes. Also anything that I found that was weather resistant (nothing is weatherproof) was very pricey. I'm useing a stainless steel marine reciptical. HTH
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 03:12:22 PM »

I've seen the three prong round blade marine plugs, but I was looking for the exact configuration of the 4 blade RV extension cords.


I would have replied sooner.... but I was too busy typing in the worlds longest address link. Thank you jjrbus Grin
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2008, 03:34:24 PM »

Chaz,
There is no particular RV connection for 250 volt/50 amp as there is for 30 amp.  The pole end is a standard 50 amp-4 wire connection, the same as used for an electric range.

The other end is usually a Twist-Lock or Marinco.  I don't believe a female cord end connector of that type exists.  You would end up installing a box  and outlet on the end of your cord but no way to mate with a flush mount.

If you make your connection inside the bay (my preference) then you could do just that and use a short range cord to connect the breaker panel to the cord.
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 03:37:08 PM »

but then.... how do you close the bay door.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 03:52:42 PM »

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Maybe an access hole in a bay door to one side so you can plug it in inside?

Just make it at the edge.

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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2008, 04:06:55 PM »

 In hindsight I would mount the Male plug inside the bay with a floor access panel. One reason for this is the code requires a breaker within 15 inches of the entrance receptical. The receptical could be mounted to the ceiling of the bay with a breaker next to it. Also anything that I found that was weather resistant (nothing is weatherproof) was very pricey. I'm useing a stainless steel marine reciptical. HTH
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Ok are you saying that if I hard wire the shore power cord to the transfer switch, do I still have to have a breaker next to where it exits the bus?  If I wire to a inlet plug there has to be a breaker with in 15 inches of it?
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2008, 04:08:34 PM »

use a marine inspection hatch or a PVC flange and plug through the floor at the edge of the compartment.

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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2008, 04:08:53 PM »

but then.... how do you close the bay door.
They sell at Rv and Marine supply stores an Various size access panels, That open large enough to put the plug through, then close snugly over the wire. Mount that in the floor.

 That should have come through as a link, You have heard of copy and paste? 
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2008, 04:12:28 PM »

So if you make a little trap door in the bay door so you can reach through the little trap door and plug the cord in the receptacle in the bay.....you still have issues with making the little trap door weatherproof when the cord is holding it open.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2008, 04:17:22 PM »

but then.... how do you close the bay door.
They sell at Rv and Marine supply stores an Various size access panels, That open large enough to put the plug through, then close snugly over the wire. Mount that in the floor.

 That should have come through as a link, You have heard of copy and paste? 

so you want to pull the wire out from underneath the bus?

That's a thought.

 Might let a little water in the bay as you drive in the rain?

I was poking fun at the link....I did copy and paste........ but Google rejected my efforts. (apparently even Google has limits) Grin
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2008, 04:19:28 PM »

use a marine inspection hatch or a PVC flange and plug through the floor at the edge of the compartment.



from underneath the bus?
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