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luvrbus
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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2008, 07:13:21 AM »

Belfert, are talking about a 14ft roll up door I could see that with one of the cheaper garge type door but not with a good rollup
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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2008, 07:19:19 AM »

 Couple of things. for wood frame/steel tin building.

     1. If you have the translucent top part of the wall the sun lets in a lot of heat.
     2. The cupola's on mine are decoration only at this part next summer I will be fixing that though.
     3. Rain gutters are a good option to keep the water away from the wood posts.
     4. Even in high heat area's insulation really helps for sweating problems.
     5. The translucent top part supposedly only last 10 years before needing to be replaced.
     6. Around here the wood trusses have a max of 60' but adding 20' loafers on the side really help.

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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2008, 08:27:59 AM »

Yes, you can put a commercial type garage door in a building with 14 foot sidewalls.  The trusses have to be manufactured with a step up in the center where the garage door goes.  (This only works if building is wide enough for trusses to still have enough support.)  Another option is laminated curved trusses that are very large and heavy, but can spaced much further apart and have a lot of clearance in the center.  Starwood is one brand.

I would go with 16 foot sidewalls if at all possible, but zoning rules in some areas will not permit 16 foot sidewalls.  Municipalities in the metro area where I live are getting stricter and stricter all the time on sizes of accessory structures like a bus garage.  Stuff that was possible 10 years ago won't fly today.  Most zoning codes prohibit pole barns on less than 5 acres and don't allow them period.  (5 acres is cost prohibitive in unless you like a 50 mile commute to work.)
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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2008, 09:03:44 AM »

Belfert, we I think the are on the same page now you are talking about a wood frame building not a metal building
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« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2008, 12:36:31 PM »

Hi Guy's,

I had roll up doors on my old shop and I will never have them again! No insulation value, and they leave gaps for pests and rodants to get in.

The new shop, I installed 2- commercial 12x14 Wayne Daltons that are insulated and have auto openers. What a Difference...

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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2008, 12:46:15 PM »

Nick, they made a lot of improvements on the roll up doors mine are double wall insulated with rubber seals on the side, top and bottom and have I no problems with  pests but I would like electric but it cost to much for a roll up door so I have the chain and it is no problem if the door is adjusted right 1 tug of the chain up to the top it goes same way coming down but I like remotes
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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2008, 12:50:58 PM »

Thats good to hear...

My old agway building was a nightmare just to hope that the door would roll up when we recieved delivery's..

Also got my fingers jammed in the side rail while rolling it up once.. Shocked That hurt!

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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2008, 08:00:50 PM »

Ace Whatever steel building you go with it is well worth putting in the clear panels in the roof I have 4 clear panels in a 50 x 100 building and I never have the lights on during the day.
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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2008, 05:17:22 AM »

That's a very good looking bus Paso One!
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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2008, 03:30:37 PM »

Thanks Jack  For a Fishbowl its not a bad bus  Wink once I get the discoloration off the aluminum it will look better yet.
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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2008, 04:34:13 PM »

Finally looking to purchase a building/shop to house the bus and other toys. Maybe a 30x50. I have looked at steel buildings with I-beam and also wood frame with steel covered walls. Any suggestions on dealers and approx. prices. Those that I looked at appeared to be built rather well and that's important down here!

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I don't subscribe to the "bigger is better" adage.  But in this case ... bigger IS better (IMHO).  We built a 40'x60' polebarn structure and I DO wish we had made it 50'x70' ... OR 40'x70' at the very least.  Have more room in front of and in back of a 40-foot bus would be nice.  We also did do 14-foot + high entry doors, which are great.

Good luck with your building.
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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2008, 05:55:10 PM »

Check out Miracle Truss.... Lots of possibilities; pretty easy to put up.  More expensive, perhaps than some, but they have a pretty good sale going on just now, I hear.

Call1800 521 0386. Ask for Justin Wheeler, ext332.  Nothing charged for conversation, questions, etc.  I am working with him for a POSSIBLE building down the line a bit.  Not connected with them otherwise.

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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2008, 05:34:28 AM »

We built a 36 X 56 Miracle Truss building.  You can see the details at:  http://home.earthlink.net/~garagebeltguy/   That is a pretty old site, but you can see the details.

I was able to place the beams myself and do all of the construction with the exception of the concrete mostly by myself Shocked.  The design allows easy change of siding (rather than metal) to meet local requirements.

I had to go with 8 foot spacing on the beams to meet the 50 pounds per sq. foot snow load requirements of our county.  It worked, as we had a 6 foot snow not long after I built the building Grin

Miracle Truss were great folks to work with.  The engineering drawings/calculations that they furnish with the building met the very demanding requirements of our county building folks.

Because of the beam design, I was able to get a 14 foot door with 14 foot walls.

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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2008, 07:14:55 AM »

I've still got a nice home with a 40 x 60 shop, 24' pit, air compressor, etc. for sale in North Florida
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« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2008, 07:38:41 AM »

Ace,
If you go with the skylights, make sure you get a warranty in writing on how long they will last without leaking. The sun breaks them down and they start to leak, at least mine did. It is nice to have the natural light, but if you have to replace them after 5-6 years (or 10-12 even) you will not be happy.
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