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« on: June 08, 2008, 04:38:30 PM »

Has anyone been able to log on to IBP web site? I registered and it sent me a confirmation but when I Try and log on it says account disabled! I tried it numerous ways! I even ordered a new cataloque only to be told it would be 14 weeks for delivery! Not a good way to sell stuff if you ask me. Guess I'll have to take a day off and ride over there!
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2008, 05:14:34 PM »

Ace,

They sent me a catalog on a CD, only took a couple of days. Never tried to log on so I can't help you there.


I just found it in my docs. I'll email you a copy if you want, let me know.



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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2008, 05:40:22 PM »

Paul I'd love a copy.  I'm waiting for my hard copy that was requested 2 years ago...LOL
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2008, 05:52:21 PM »

I had the same result Ace. I've been waiting for 18 wks for that 14 wk wait for the CD.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2008, 06:00:09 PM »

As soon as I can get it zipped I'll be glad to send you one Doug and others who want one.

It's pretty big and for some reason it's taking a while.

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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2008, 06:04:41 PM »

Paul ...

 maybe someone on the board come host it on their website where it could be downloaded by those that want it. The reason I suggest this is most email accounts are restricted to 5 mg file size.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2008, 06:39:50 PM »

It must be encyrpted. It will not send.

If someone know what I can do let me know. It's about 151MB. Zipped only down to 142MB. ?

I'll keep trying though. I'm technical challanged on some of this stuff.

Ron, you are probably correct, it's just too darn big.

If I have time when I get back home I could see if I can copy the disc they sent to me and put in on some cd's.

Sorry Guys,

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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 04:09:45 AM »

Same here I've been waiting since December! 
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2008, 05:29:47 AM »

Ace let me know when you are going I'll take a ride with you . I have order a catalog almost two years ago too never received it.
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2008, 05:43:01 AM »

Same story with me, I requested a catalog in january and they told me it would be 16 weeks, they did not mention that they had it on CD.  I think that I have plenty of storage on my site to put up the catalog for download.  Like Ace said, looks like they don't care if they sell anything or not, the board is makeing more effort to circulate their catalog than they are.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2008, 06:33:10 AM »

It must be encyrpted. It will not send.

If someone know what I can do let me know. It's about 151MB. Zipped only down to 142MB. ?

I'll keep trying though. I'm technical challanged on some of this stuff.

Ron, you are probably correct, it's just too darn big.

If I have time when I get back home I could see if I can copy the disc they sent to me and put in on some cd's.

Sorry Guys,

Paul

Yup, too big.  Most email systems are capped at 10-20MB.  Even RapidShare.com limits you to 100MB now.

Probably the best way will be to burn it to a CD and snail mail it.
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2008, 06:43:55 AM »

Thanks HighTechRedneck,

I learn something everyday!

When I get back home I will try and burn a copy and see how it turns out. If I'm successful I'll let you guys know, we can work out the details of mailing at that time. Should be home Wed. or Thurs. this week.

I'm so surpised that it is taking so long for you guys to get copies from them. I called them several months ago and received it in about one week. The cd version is nice for me because of my travels.

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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2008, 08:08:23 AM »

I sent them an email and here is the response I received just this morning!

" have reported the problems to the webmaster.  We do have a CD available if
that will help.  Let me know where to send it and I will get one right out.
What type of coaches do you have or work on?  Let me know.

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Steve Kolb
IBP Industries, Inc.
2055 Sprint Blvd
Apopka, Fl 32703
Office:  407 880 9700
Fax:  407 880 4811
skolb@ibpindustries.com 
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2008, 09:01:05 AM »

I use yousendit.com to transfer large files. You can register for free and transfer files up to 1gig. It sends an e-mail to whoever you want with a link to download from the site.

I also have a folder on the server at work that I use for large files. I usually send an e-mail with the link to the folder for someone to download from.
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2008, 12:47:54 PM »

I use yousendit.com to transfer large files. You can register for free and transfer files up to 1gig. It sends an e-mail to whoever you want with a link to download from the site.

I also have a folder on the server at work that I use for large files. I usually send an e-mail with the link to the folder for someone to download from.


I just checked http://www.yousendit.com and on the free account they have a 100MB file size limit.  1GB/month download limit.  Interesting service though.
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2008, 05:54:50 PM »

Like Ace said, looks like they don't care if they sell anything or not, the board is making more effort to circulate their catalog than they are.


I have their catalog scanned but now what to do with it?
55 pages the scan looks better then the original.
take a look at the eBay store its better then the catalog anyhow.

http://stores.ebay.com/IBP-Industries-Inc_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZQ2d33QQftidZ2QQtZkm
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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2008, 06:50:00 PM »


take a look at the eBay store its better then the catalog anyhow.

http://http://stores.ebay.com/IBP-Industries-Inc_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZQ2d33QQftidZ2QQtZkm


I don't know, the ebay site only seems to have 11 items on it right now.  Hopefully a catalog would have a few more.  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2008, 12:10:13 PM »

Ok I know the stuff they have looks good and probably 1st quality but man I can buy a LOT of fuel for what they want for some trim pieces. Matter of fact, I can fill it up!

Think I'll just bite the bullet and make my own! Heck 20 ga SS can't be that hard to work with!

A tail light trim kit, for one side mind you, is $797.98

The rear louver kit which covers each fiberglass section on my motor cover is $849.37

Now the front head light trim is ONLY $125.26   EACH side!

Heck the rear letters that say "PREVOST" are only $183.72

Maybe this is why nobody is getting a catalog!!!!

Like I said, I think I can do a good enough job on my own and be money ahead to use for fuel if nothing else!

BS and I mean it LOL
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2008, 04:15:35 PM »

Ok I know the stuff they have looks good and probably 1st quality but man I can buy a LOT of fuel for what they want for some trim pieces. Matter of fact, I can fill it up!

Think I'll just bite the bullet and make my own! Heck 20 ga SS can't be that hard to work with!

A tail light trim kit, for one side mind you, is $797.98

The rear louver kit which covers each fiberglass section on my motor cover is $849.37

Now the front head light trim is ONLY $125.26   EACH side!

Heck the rear letters that say "PREVOST" are only $183.72

Maybe this is why nobody is getting a catalog!!!!

Like I said, I think I can do a good enough job on my own and be money ahead to use for fuel if nothing else!

BS and I mean it LOL

I couldn't agree more Ace.  That is rediculous.  I wonder how many people pay that price.
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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2008, 04:23:49 PM »

My experience dealing with IBP has led me to believe that failure to receive a catalog from them might in fact be a good thing.
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« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2008, 12:29:40 PM »

Obviously, enough people are paying those prices to keep IBP in business.

The prices may be high, but if you paid yourself $50 an hour how much would a DIY part cost?
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« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2008, 12:47:41 PM »

Man, everyone has been bitchin abou prices lately. 

Stuff has always been more expensive for buses.....particularly body stuff.

keep in mind aalot of body stuff is brand specific if not model specific,  buses are produced in small numbers so there is alot less economy of scale.

of those buses how many will ever need X body part?  all this stuff needs to be produced, and carried in inventory with all it's associated costs.

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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2008, 01:07:46 PM »

Brian first off I wouldn't pay myself 50 bucks an hour! I already get more than that!

Bird, I'm not bitching but would YOU fork out almost 900 bucks for a light panel WITHOUT the lights or would YOU bitch?

Granted the company most likely has a source for water jetting some of these parts for them but $183.00 plus for 7 letters spelling "Prevost" is a little silly!

Most everything is just trim bling anyway and only cosmetic but still, if it were structural or safety, I might buy into it!

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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2008, 01:15:23 PM »

Lots to be said for making your own.

Please share the results of what worked well for working with SS sheet metal & where you were able to get the polished stainless.

The last we bought at work wasn't polished & was over $3.00/ pound & we got a discount for buying over 10,000#!
It was a PITA to work with too.  Sad

BTW, we'd like to be able to get the water jetting as cheap as IBP found, they must have had a bunch made for that price!
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2008, 01:33:56 PM »

Kyle, I didn't buy the scrap metal I'm using. It's 20g polished mirror finish that a friend of mine gave me from his bus project! (I'm sure I'll pay in the end LOL) but he told me he paid something like 300 bucks a sheet which is 4x10. Now I can make a LOT of neat stuff from a full sheet!
I am trying to make some rear light panels for my bus to house my new LED lights. So far, it has been fairly easy to work with. I tried a nibbler, tin snips, hole saw, and a jig saw. Jig saw got the most votes as it went right thru it like it was wood! I also used an air sander to finish the edges! Did I mention I have a friend that has a 12 foot long sheet metal shear? THAT came in real handy and he didn't charge me anything although I paid him anyway to shear my scrap down to size!
Hope my friend doesn't see me using the word "scrap" Smiley

If I wanted to and had a pattern, I COULD go down and have yet another friend do the water jetting for me but it just isn't worth it for just the Letters!

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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2008, 01:44:06 PM »

I'd say if I needed one I'd pay it.

My truck mirror got clipped buy some asshole that never stopped it was almost 300.00 not including labor to put it on.  and there tens of thousands of those trucks running around
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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2008, 02:05:59 PM »

Needed and wanted fall into 2 very different catagories!
Your mirror got clipped and you NEEDED a replacement. I don't NEED some the items I listed the prices on but WOULD "WANT" them if they were priced respectfully!
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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2008, 02:18:29 PM »

yeah yeah I would like alot of stuff if it were priced better,

a nice 300 sq ft home on a small lake with a 3 bay bus garage, a nice cabin calss twin engine aircraft, a 40 foot or so sailboat....list goes on.

If you want bad enough buy...if not wanted bad don;t buy.

look at all the guys paying good money for LED conversion, or ugly R&M fiberglass bits.  thats all Want not need
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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2008, 07:00:27 PM »

Ahh, my favorite place to shop, at friends discard/ left-over piles  Grin Good prices too  Cool
(too bad there aren't more of those around)

Access to a good shear sure helps keep the edges straight.  Grin

Holding it while using the hole saw can be a challenge, if it grabs, it can do some serious damage.  Sad  Shocked

One man's scrap = another's treasure.

As for the pattern, developing one can eat a lot of money is when it comes to cnc cutting.  Sad
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« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2008, 07:06:03 PM »

SCARRRRYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

you and me are starting to agree! ")

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« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2008, 09:02:49 PM »


Holding it while using the hole saw can be a challenge, if it grabs, it can do some serious damage.  Sad  Shocked


Saw a tip recently on this.  Haven't had a chance to use it since though, but it sounds good.

Essentially, create a quick and cheap jig to hold it in place.  Put the piece to be hole cut on a piece of wood that is mounted to a work bench.  Run in a few power screws just outside each edge of the metal piece.  Use at least 3-4 on each side (more on larger pieces) to prevent excessive pressure against the metal piece in any one spot.  This will help prevent it from breaking loose and spinning while running the hole saw on it.
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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2008, 11:12:43 PM »

Hay Guy's,

I make alot of "Hi End" Kitchen Hoods for some elite builders in our area and here are some numbers on stainless.

22ga, 4x8' sheet brushed w/Lazar film $312.65
22ga, 4x8' sheet polished w/Lazar film $396.00

I have not purchased 20 ga. yet this year but, it is usually 80 bucks more then 22 ga.

Bending and sheering 20ga stainless is equivalent to bending and sheering 16ga cold rolled steel. The stuff is HARD

All your equipment needs to be Big, Big, not sheet metal grade.. Ever priced out a 5x10 Plazma cutting table? $$$$

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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2008, 06:54:51 AM »

Nick the 20g stuff I was given was fairly easy to work with! Like I said a regular B&D jig saw went thru it like wood! My handy hand held air sander smoothed the edges just fine!

I DID try a plasma cutter on the small first single light panel but it tried to warp so I didn't want to take a chance on the larger piece's!

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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2008, 09:10:35 AM »

Yea ... I agree with Nick, "The stuff is HARD", something doesn't sound right with that 20ga SS that you have Ace . I was suprised when you said that the "jig saw went thru it like wood". SS has nickel in it and nickel is very hard stuff. Nickel also work-hardens making it even harder. I've never been able to cut it with a straight cabon steel holesaw or a jigsaw, it just rounds the tips off the teeth. That why lazer or waterjet cutting is preferred.

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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2008, 09:18:37 AM »

I have cut many holes in stainless with a standard holesaw, along with using a jigsaw to cut the stainless, and drilled many holes in the stainless steel in my bus.  Its true if you use too high a speed, it work hardens, and then good luck using anything.  I have found that if you use a slow speed, or even the technique of start (still a slow speed) and stop, start and stop etc - stainless can be cut fairly quickly and easily.  Use of stanlless cutting juice also helps, but is not necessary.  Something about the slow speed and high pressure, the teeth really bite in.
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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2008, 09:32:45 AM »

Hi Guy's,

There is alot of grades of Stainless. Put a magnet to it, if it sticks even the slightest bit, it's a lower grade then 308 that I use and would

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What grade comes stock in a Prevost?
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