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Author Topic: my new bus is finally home lots of little problems  (Read 3963 times)
Lonnie time to go
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« on: June 20, 2008, 06:08:32 PM »

1975 GMC 4905
As I pulled out of the p/o driveway  large cloud of smoke I mean huge but quit after 1/2 mile.
When I back up a little blue smoke comes out.
Had to add water and oil before I left. Still low oil light turned on after 35 miles.
steering wheel loose, likes to move back and forth on the road.
Has several little air leaks, shifter area,  valve at back of bus to release brakes

 I love my bus its mine and payed for. yeehaa


Now I have to figure out what everything is....Huh
Anyone have a detailed diagram of the parts to a motor, auto trans and other stuff in motor
area [with labels]
I can check the oil and water,find the fuel filters but the rest of the stuff is unknown.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2008, 07:02:33 PM »

Congrats on taking the plunge! The best money I spent was getting a shop manual for mine. Make a list of the things you think you need to address so you can refer back to it from time to time. As you get more into it things seem to change priority. Keep us posted.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2008, 07:40:21 PM »

OH yea !  A shop manual is a MUST. That should be the first thing you buy.

Welcome to the world of bussing....

Bill
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2008, 08:00:09 PM »

Shop manual and list of repairs to keep you focused.

The list will change but for the better and always be different stuff to fix

Congratulations

Melbo
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2008, 08:55:38 PM »

another thing i forgot to add my water temp is 150'
If thats not the engine temp, then I will need to put one in [ front and on the engine ]
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2008, 08:58:27 PM »

Sorry guys but I must disagree.
The first thing I must do and did was put chair in bus with fan to keep cool
while staring at bus.

Where do I get manual please and thanks


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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2008, 09:08:31 PM »

manuals!  plural

Maint and parts and since you are a bus veirgin, an Operators manual too
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 10:41:59 PM »

I do have the parts manual
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2008, 07:48:25 AM »


Lonnie,

  There are a lot of good knowledable bus nuts there in Michigan that could probably spend a few hours with
 you and jump start your knowledge base on your bus Smiley   Safety being the first!
   Sorry my memory isn't what is used to be or I would give you there call names.

    Manuals..........some have gotten them on ebay or ordered the CD (photo copied so at least one generation degregation)
    coachinfo.com is one place that comes to mind to get CD's. Where I got mine and it does really help.

     At 2k hopefully you haven't spent all your warchest! There will be all the little things that are sure to pop up Smiley

    Please remember this is supposed to be a fun hobby and if you like frustration you will have fun.
       
    Skip
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2008, 09:06:45 AM »

Lonnie,

I have CD manuals for a bunch of my vehicles.  I'll take paper any day.  CD are $19.95 for almost everything.  Dallas has the manual for your engine and i think he will share it with you if he still has it.

Good luck,

John
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2008, 09:55:59 AM »

John, do you have any Prevost Champion manuals? I could use one of those, I ordered a DD manual from eBay that should keep me going... Thanks
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2008, 10:21:52 AM »

When we showed up to p/u our bus we had already paid a LOT of money for it, sight unseen, wire transfer before we ever made the trip.  So there we are in his yard and he says "Oh, by the way, I've got all the DD & Prevost manuals, do you want them?"  Sez I "Sure" - thinking, WTH else is he going to do with them?  Sez he "well they cost me a lot of money so I'll have to charge you for them."  Now in hindsight my only regret about the whole purchase is that I didn't immediately respond "then shove them where the sun don't shine and let them rot there you cheap SOB!!" but instead I just got out my chequebook.  I'm still mad at myself for caving.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2008, 10:29:45 AM »

timetogo40 and any other bus nuts in MI, OH, IL, Ontario, IN ...

Come to one of the CCO (Converted Coach Owners) or GLCC (Great Lakes Converted Coach) rallies.  (many GM, MCI, and other owners with massive knowledge)

CCO July 11-13 Gilmore Car Museum near Kalamazoo, MI

GLCC July 25-27 Olivet, MI Fireman's Festival

GLCC and CCO August 13-17 Flint, MI Back to the Bricks Rally - Car Show AND Frankenmuth shopping AND the Renaissance Festival AND the Woodward Dream Cruise AND the Genesee County Fair AND Auto City Racing AND Crossroads Village AND Fankenmuth's Bringin' Back the 80's Festival AND ...

GLCC Aug 22-24 Grand Bend, ON

GLCC Sept 24-28 Elkhart Surplus and Salvage Rally

CCO Oct 17-19 Milan, MI Halloween Rally

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2008, 01:32:08 PM »

Timetogo - I also live in Michigan -Lansing specifically and I had a 4905 and would be glad to help.  Feel free to give me a call or e-mail.  Where are you located? 

Ed Roelle is absolutly right - join clubs!

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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2008, 03:55:01 PM »

I lived between saginaw and caro    thanks very much
email  ltjabgray@att.net
phone 989-239-1734
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2008, 05:38:47 PM »

Lonnie -

As Doug (Tekebird) says, you'll need four books:  Detroit Diesel, Parts Book, Maintenance Manual and an Operator's Manual.

Doug may still have some paper copies, or you can get the CDs, as has already been mentioned.

There's also a fellow on eBay that often sells GMC & MCI manuals.  His eBay ID is Paul4, and he's in British Columbia.  Might see what he's got, too.

Finally, what's the VIN on your new toy?  P8M4905A - XXXX?

FWIW & HTH. . .

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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2008, 07:14:31 PM »

I got my manuals from Dean's coach in Chapel Hill, NC You can probably find them on a google search some how. They had new ones.
I have cd manuals for some other vehicles but much prefer the paper ones.
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2008, 08:36:45 PM »

1975  P8M4905A1265  auto trans
The p/o  changed the front and back to look a little like an eagle bus.
Saginaw has a couple of camping show going on at the mall today.
Wow nice diesel pusher for the money.
If anyone [ Michigan cheapier shipping ] has books i need give me a call.
I hope the price wont  set me back to  much or I might get one book at a time.

989-239-1734
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2008, 09:02:43 PM »

Time,

Sorry, I don't have anything you could use at this time.

Good luck with your adventure.

John
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2008, 09:07:19 PM »

Time,

Man If you are worried about a few dollars more to ship a manual from CA or somewhere other than Michigan.......I would hate to be around when you have to buy some parts.
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2008, 11:08:55 PM »


1975  P8M4905A1265  auto trans



FYI -

P8M4905A-1265 was delivered new as fleet number 531 in December of 1975 to Stanley Cupp, dba Valley Coach Lines Company, based in Clio, MI.


As for the books, the Operator's Manual will be the least expensive, between $10 - $25 or so.  The Parts Book and Maintenance Manual will run around $25 - $75 each.  You can, IIRC, still order a brand new 8V71 Detroit Diesel Maintenance Manual directly from a Detroit distributor for about $120 - but it comes in two big 3-inch three-ring binders, and fills them both.

Enjoy your new toy!

FWIW & HTH. . .

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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2008, 09:51:06 PM »

Time -

Looking for an Operator's Manual for your 4905?

Check eBay #230264215744


While you're at it, see what other items Paul4's got listed this week.  You might find something else useful.



FWIW & HTH. . .

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