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Nick Badame Refrig/ACC
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« on: June 17, 2006, 08:04:39 PM »

Daniel Odio Left my place a couple hours ago and he just called saying the engine has shut Down Twice.

He discovered the coolent level was somewhat low and filled with water.

He then traveled 5 mi's and shut down again, coolent still full but lighter in color.

He has a Cummins, He's not sure which model.

Any help with a solution would be appreciated!!!!!

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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2006, 08:11:55 PM »

Nick any idea which cummins is it computer controled? Can he request a code flash from his computer? Theres usually a way to get it on the dash warning lights, I'm not to familar with a Van Hoole or the cummin's! Oh yeah also find out which model & yr V H it is. I got a friend who runs 12 of them! I'll see what I can find out! Huh  Undecided Cool Grin Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2006, 08:15:15 PM »

Bryce,

It's an 88'  and he has stripped all the guages and added a computer screen for all his read outs, but not sure if he has them all up and running.

I know he has no temp reading as of yet!

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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2006, 08:19:35 PM »

Daniel doesn't know if it's comp controled engine.

He say's the trans is comp controlled.

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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2006, 08:23:55 PM »

Ohh, That makes it more difficult, ahh lets see an '88 may or may not be computer controled, I wonder if he's got an air bubble at the low coolant sensor? Also I wonder if it has temp shut downs like a DD ? If so he could try temperarily disconnect them, but I wouldn't wanna run it long with out 'em does he have a temp gauge of any kind ? See if you can find out which model V H it is and which engine too, I can't make no guarantees but I'll make a call if I can get the answers to the first questions he's gonna ask, he may have an idea or maybe not! But we'll try. BK
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2006, 08:26:35 PM »

Nick can he tell if the engine has a throttle cable or linkage, or  does it got a box mounted on the engine controling the throttle with a large wiring harness hooked to it? BK
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2006, 08:29:10 PM »

Bryce,

Ill call him and ask.

Anyway I can tell him where to look for type engine?
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2006, 08:30:43 PM »

Bryce,

Ill call him and ask.

Anyway I can tell him where to look for type engine?

 Usually theres a tag on the valve cover if it hasn't been removed or painted over! BK
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2006, 08:34:24 PM »

He say's it has a throttle cable.

He is looking for the tag.

He made it a few hundred miles this morning to my place with no trouble. Hummmm.
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2006, 08:37:05 PM »

He thinks he remembers someone saying that its a L 10
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2006, 08:42:01 PM »

Well I'm not positive but if it has a throttle cable it should be a mechanical pump and as long as he knows it's not overheating, if I remember correctly on a cummins mechanicla fuel pump there is a screw that you can turn in and it locks the pump on so the engine will not shut down unless the screw is backed out or by dumping the clutch! I know this is not the proper fix but it should get him somewhere safely off the road and at a place where we can see what find out why it's shutting down ! BK
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2006, 09:04:39 PM »

Hay BK,

He's gona hit the sack for the night and resume in the morning. He only had 3 hrs sleep last night.

Thanks for the help! I'll keep ya posted

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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2006, 09:23:27 PM »

No problem Nick if ya'll need any help call me 731-885-7460 I just remembered a local hand I can get ahold of in the AM !  But first I gotta try and get the transmission back in a buddy's mustang, shouldn't take an hr if I'll jest get out there an do it! LOL! BK
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2006, 04:37:29 AM »

Hello BK,

Since he traveled from V.A. to here and now this problem on the way home, do ya think maybe Fuel Filters?Huh

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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2006, 06:02:38 AM »

Hello BK,
Since he traveled from V.A. to here and now this problem on the way home, do ya think maybe Fuel Filters?Huh
Nick-

That's very likely, also if for some reason the soleniod that shuts fuel off to the injector pump loses voltage(I don't remember them, but there are several causes) the fuel will shut off and cause it to quit. That is why we used to run the screw in on the pump when this would happen and could still truck on coast to coast with out it shutting down anymore (not the cure, but it got us to where we could find the problem and cure it! Or get the "load off", then make it to the shop since most of our loads were perishables).
Does he have a oil pressure guage, and a temp gauge hooked up at all ?
It certainly won't hurt to change those filters, but I'm still wondering if there's something else. BK
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2006, 06:21:18 AM »

I had a NTC 350 BCIV that use to do that to me. One time it stopped on the middle of Hoover Dam, I had to get out, jack up the cab and set it on manual.
After $1500 worth of shop time and useless parts, it would still do it at the worst times.
I finally sold the truck and it's still on the road, doing the same thing.
Experience tells me that he should set it on manual and go home with it.
If there aren't any major oil or temp problems, he'll be fine.
One thing that does come to mind is that the fuel solenoid could be bad and causing it to lose connection which will shut it down. Possibly caused by broken wiring or a bad ground. It the solenoid was put in with teflon tape it can't get a good ground and may be losing it there.
Try jumpering it through the switch so that it's active when the switch is on, but isn't being affected by the shutdown sensors. If it still shuts down then it's either witing, the solenoid or the gound.

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2006, 06:21:57 AM »

BK,

He has a computor running the vital systems and a custom dash board with a 17" toutch screen monitor that is his only vision of any guages.

He is now on the road and half way back to V.A.

I'll let you know what he finds.

Thanks again.

Nick.

P.S. I'm leaving today for Columbus for paint, I hope I don't need to call upon you, but I hope I can if I need to!
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2006, 06:33:12 AM »

BK,
He has a computor running the vital systems and a custom dash board with a 17" toutch screen monitor that is his only vision of any guages.
He is now on the road and half way back to V.A.
I'll let you know what he finds.
Thanks again.
Nick.
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Call if ya need that's why we are here!  Grin Cheesy Cool BK
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