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« on: October 16, 2008, 07:32:50 PM »

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/search/carlist.aspx

unit 792.1947

guesses on what it will go for?

last one my buddy did went for 100k+ two years ago in AZ
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2008, 07:37:30 PM »

804 is a #########   it will go for a fraction of the Flx


Moderator Edit:  Let's stop offending each other by using derogatory terms for each other's buses.  I know this seems petty, and my edit may strike some as censorship.  But we have lost members over this kind of thing and others have simply stopped posting.  We need to get back to respecting each other and each others buses.
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2008, 09:24:19 AM »

I am not sure if you were looking at the same Eagle I saw, but it looked to be in great shape, did'nt see any rust whatsoever.

Maybe you should change your screen name to "superman" as you obviously must have x-ray vision. But then again, after reading some of your other posts, we should not expect anything less than Eagle bashing from you.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2008, 10:05:07 AM »

Doug,

      Have you even seen the Eagle you mentioned.   Have you laid your hands on it.  Have you looked under it to SEE rust with your own eyes.......................................Waiting for your answer........ Angry
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2008, 10:47:48 AM »

COme on Doug,

If you have a personal vendetta, please take it elsewhere..

If you have a problem with members.. you have a "report" button to hit.

If you are trying to get around the limitations on sales.. read the rules and the warnings you've been given.

A friendly moderator.. Dallas
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2008, 10:56:29 AM »

Damn, do you guys know what sarcasm is?

I personally feel if anyone gets so upset over someone calling some originally bus that was orriginally made by Kassboher Rusty, ugly or whatever that they would leave the forum......they likely would have left anyway.

but whatever.

I suggest you contact the rustless moneypit and have him change his name as someone may become offended.



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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2008, 11:01:12 AM »

The edit is appreciated.

It is good to see the Flx Clipper restored to such great condition, it is a great piece of bus history. I hope they get tons of money for it.

Having said that, I would expect a 1984 Eagle, a 1984 MCI, a 1984 Prevost or a 1984 whatever bus, to bring less than a restored vintage, rare, 1947 FLX Clipper. That is just common sense. I am sure if you put Peter Wilson's fully restored 1958 Articulated Golden Eagle on the auction, it would probably bring as much as the Futurliner, and certainly more than any 1984 coach.
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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2008, 11:10:55 AM »

 This is one time I hope tbird is right about the Eagle not selling for much I came from Houston to bid on that Eagle Sat for my son, it is a very clean, low milage Eagle and well cared for FWIW tbird he could afford a matched set (his & hers) of Marathon H-45 but he wants a Eagle
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2008, 11:11:41 AM »

1984 Eagle Coaches were produced by Eagle International, Inc., not Kassborher. If you have a lack of knowledge about the Eagle Coaches, which I can only assume you do, maybe you should say nothing at all.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2008, 11:18:37 AM »

Doug, it's not as much about a single use of the term as it is your long track record of insulting/criticizing the one brand.  People are becoming sensitive to it and tired of seeing the bus they love repeatedly ridiculed.  Yes, they do take it personal.  And there is a distinct difference in the use of a term in an affectionate way and an insulting way.  If this was the first time, you could have argued it was all in fun.  But with your history of "bashing" Eagles, that is not possible.

We are all grown ups and friends here.  So yes, we can take a little jibbing now and then in fun.  But in general, we need to return to being respectful of each other.  Otherwise, this forum will erode into bitterness and it will cease to be the close knit place of help that we all enjoy.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008, 11:20:48 AM »

Why does this happen we all love our buses GM,MCI, Eagle you name it someone has a make that he loves and this ridiculous in my opinion  bye and good luck
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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008, 11:22:19 AM »

COme on Doug,

If you have a personal vendetta, please take it elsewhere..

If you have a problem with members.. you have a "report" button to hit.

If you are trying to get around the limitations on sales.. read the rules and the warnings you've been given.

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Dallas,

I have no personal vendettas with anyone!
I only have problems with (Moderator edited: No personal insults) members that can't take a good ribbing and feel the need to come to the defense of a brand of bus!
I am not trying to sell anything!

Damn Nazi's in here anymore!

If anyone would take the time to go back through every post I have done, I never said Eagles Suck, or that I wish Ill Will on Silver Eagle manufacturing, in fact I have pointed out quite a few good deals on Eagles that have come up for sale here and there.

As for those who say I am anti Eagle, I probably have one of the largest collections of Eagle models and literature around.
Guess I really hate them huh?

Pointing out that Eagles rust is not an attack, it is plain FACT! yes other buses rust too.  Buffalos tend to rust around the hump, and MCI's in various locations too, as well as several other brands and models I could point out.

I am not going to waste my time going back and finding the post to quote myself and point out the thread, but this all started when  some newbee came in and asked a question.  I forget if it was about Eagle or a General what to look for and stay away from question........but my post was about Eagles being prone to corrosion.

Then, the Society for the prevention of defimation of the Eagle brand ( could not bother coming up with a cool anacranism (sp?)) came out of the woodwork.

Please feel free to edit out the use of the word Eagle so nobody gets thier panties in a WAD!



SMOOTHJAZZ:  Read what I posted not what you think I posted.  The Eagle bus was ORIGINALLY disigned by kassbohrer. then under contract by Bus and Car in Belgium, etc etc.

I am fully aware of the history of the brand, and that of GM, Beck, Aerocoach, Brill, MCI, prevost etc.



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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2008, 11:39:27 AM »

Tekebird,

Read what you posted, not what you think you posted. Had you said, originally designed, and not, originally made, I would not have corrected you. The reference has been towards a 1984 Eagle Coach.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2008, 12:29:04 PM »

Doug,

For you buses are a business.  However you feel about any certain brand, it is impersonal, it's just a bus.  But most of the people here are hobbyists.  They put a lot of effort (and money) into their bus.  They have pride in it.  They often become very attached to it.  I am that way about my RTS.  When you repeatedly criticize the bus they are passionate about, you can expect to offend them.

That is really what it comes down to here.  Intention.  You know the effect your negative statements about Eagles are causing.  It has been pointed out before.  You know it is offending some to the point they leave.  But you continue to slip in a jab when ever the opportunity arises.  This needs to stop.  Please show some respect for how other's feel about their buses.

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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2008, 01:14:48 PM »

The sad thing here is that the majority of active people on the board no longer care if tekebird remains or not, some very knowledgeable and respected members have left or no longer post becuase of the constant attacks by tekebird, I say majority because this has been discussed at length with a great number of the active people, Tekebird has knowledge to share and experience that could be very helpfull to a lot of people, myself included but he is no longer taken seriously simply because of what appears to be non stop trolling, it's unfortunate, but when one person creates such a division in an otherwise good forum something should be done about it.  I give the highest respect to the moderators of this board for their patience but at what point does a person say enough is enough, how many more people will have to leave before something is done, it's sad when it comes down to this but I'll no longer be posting becasue of this situation, I have nothing of value to offer, no real experience but I've had it, I'm an eagle owner and right or wrong, it's mine, it's paid for and I love it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2008, 01:26:34 PM »

And the saga continues!

Another Eagle Owner bites the dust, that is two great knowledgeable people in the past week. And now Cody!

Now it's getting personal. Four friends of mine have left because of what?

Doug, Pretty soon you won't have anybody left that will be offended by your so called sarcasm.

In My Humble Opinion....You should quit posting anything related to Eagles. The dust hasn't even settled from the last time and there you go stirring it up again...Sheesh

Give it a break!

Because I'm over it!


I will do the same as Cody, come back to post only when something is permanently done to stop this. I will leave that up to the moderators.

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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2008, 01:42:44 PM »

It seems that the one who seems to get ruffled easily here, is Tekebird himself. I merely made an observation that he must have been looking at a different bus than the rest of us. He obviously did not base his comment on what he saw in the picture or first hand knowledge, therefore, his statement was ignorant and he should expect that people will respond.

I did not see anybody use words such as, damn, crybaby and damn nazi's other than Tekebird himself. He should expect to be questioned if he is going to continue to make ignorant comments.

Finally Tekebird, you should take a few lessons in grammar, spelling, punctuation and most of all RESPECT. Then, maybe people would respect you in return.
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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2008, 01:58:42 PM »

Damn, do you guys know what sarcasm is?

Yep! Do you?   Grin


My OPINION:
What's the big deal? So someone aggravates some with their posting. . . . Over look it! (or egg 'em on & laugh at the fireworks  Shocked  Grin  Roll Eyes)
Don't give the jerks you don't like that kind of influence over your actions.

I don't need more political correctness.

Why would someone leave? I can't say.

Captain Ron / Charley Davison left after some expressed their displeasure of his reason for converting a bus (his reason was "to get laid" which I thought was funny. & if my kids read that & knew what it meant, the cat's already out of the bag. . . .)


Most here know tekebird has little if any use for me & I have the private emails that clarify his opinion of me & of himself.
I find his postings 'interesting' & take his personality into account when I read or pass over his posts.

ace & I don't exchange Christmas cards either . . . . Shocked  Undecided    Grin  Grin  Grin


Over in the OT section, there's a few having fun with the political discussions. It is sometimes spirited, but still fun & I'd buy lunch for any of 'em if they showed up in time. There may be one or two that would only get a peanut butter cracker, but I'd still share.  Grin
doug might only get half a cracker tho . . .  Shocked  Wink



The bottom line is we ALL share a fondness of buses, & that is the most important thing to a true bus-nut . . . everything else is grey noise.   (Either that or it is a conspiracy to get us all to hate buses & get rid of them.  Roll Eyes  those darn tree huggers! )



What we NEED on this board are more behaved people posting so the misbehavers will have a better example to follow.
& if you don't like someones comment, ignore it on the thread & send a note to them off line to share your thoughts with them privately, maybe they will grow from it, if they don't grow, it is their loss & the thread won't be poisoned with a pissing contest. If the ugly postings are ignored. . . . .

I"d rather things not get deleted by the moderators, that should be left up to the poster. If the bad is removed, the guilty are not held accountable for their actions.
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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2008, 02:05:12 PM »

Alright guys, time to step back and take a break.  

For the life of me I can not understand how some can leave the forum over posts they don't agree with, especially some of the "offending" post referenced by Doug.  I have seen him make many valid points about Eagles and their current ownership.  I have also seen him stir the pot with his comments as well.  While I think his approach could use some work, I have seen others go right at him for the opinions he has and I can't recall him ever threaten to leave due to those comments directed at him, some of which have been very pointed.

My biggest piece of advise would be to ignore the posts/posters that so offend you.  It is really easy.  Did you ever stop to think that he makes some of these comments to incite you?  He could say something simple like "Eagles Rust" and you guys will go into a tailspin.  Don't let it get to you.

I'm just not easy to offend and I guess that is why I don't understand how you guys let him work you into a frenzy.

We all like buses and we all have something to offer.  Maybe if you have issues with another on here it would be best to try and resolve the issue through a private message instead of in the plain view of the public.
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2008, 02:09:00 PM »

Darn Guys,

I am deeply sadened that people like Cody and others of similar calibre are fading over this.  Maybe I would see it a touch differently if I owned an Eagle.  Not looking but I would like to.  Does it matter to the Eagle owners that many of us envy you?  Please reconsider.

And from "Field of Dreams":  "Kid" (Tbird)...."don't wink"(rib them).  From Webster:  Sarcasm.....wit of the Master.

Love you guys....really.

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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2008, 02:38:54 PM »

I hate to see guys leave over this as well. The problem is not that we don't know that Eagles have issues. We know all buses have issues. But it has gotten to where an Eagle cannot be mentioned on this forum without the same person posting the usual venom about it.. so much so that the original poster can't get an answer to their question. This is not just a matter of people getting their feelings hurt, although that does happen as well. And people have asked Doug nicely to consider other people's feelings in the past but he has refused and attacked back. If this were just the occasional ribbing, I don't think there would be a problem. But it is a constant barrage any time a certain brand of bus is mentioned. It is not nice. It is not fair. And it is over the line. Doug should have been willing to back off many times over the past years but instead he has gotten worse. I think maybe all of this has just blown up and people are willing to leave because of the 'safe' place to talk Eagles. I still love the MAK forum. But it is getting to where it is not worth it. I am against censorship as a rule, but only until someone abuses the freedom and uses it to step on other people's feelings. Like I said in another recent post, it is not just about not opening a certain person's threads when they spew the venom in every thread about a subject. It would mean I couldn't take the chance to open any Eagle thread if I didn't want to read the offending material. I applaud the Moderators of this board for taking a stand to try to keep the peace.
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2008, 02:49:20 PM »

Guys,

There seems to be one in every group.

Don't quit.....Ignore them.....

Have you noticed the antagonist never quits....They are enjoying the attention!

Do not reply, post or comment on ANYTHING they say.

The silence will be deafening.

or just post this  Kiss and nothing else.  We all know what they can kiss................

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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2008, 03:07:36 PM »

I am like Cliff I consider the source very seldom do I respond to his post, but I can see after 2 years of the same crap why some would leave there is no point to it.I read on one of his post he said  in Texas and the laws there SilverEagle was probably washing money statements like that are uncalled for when you know nothing about the company ,again the source    have a great day
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2008, 03:25:40 PM »

Gee...I have never seen so many folks get worked up about something that in my opinion is pretty minor.

It's easy, ya'll know that Doug is going to bash the Birds, don't read or respond to his posts.

Personally I have learned a lot from his non, Bird related posts!

I was going to write this concerning the other post but it was locked.

Buy the way...we own a Scenicruiser...Dianne says it is dead...folks that see it and/or photos of it think it is dead or worse!  Doesn't bother me in the least!

Again...I don't see what the big deal is!?

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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2008, 03:30:46 PM »

Jack; maybe minor to you and major to others it would be a sad world if God made us all the same   have a great day
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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2008, 03:39:31 PM »

I ask everyone posting on this thread to read the first thread on the All Topics BB "Forum Civility Rules" Reminder.  Jack
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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2008, 03:52:16 PM »

I grew up with a phyical and mental abusive father.  Now.............I know these are two different situations but, just because you know someone is "THAT WAY" does not make it RIGHT or ACCEPTABLE in any shape form or fashion.   To ingnore is to accept and for some of us that is just not possible!!!

This "RIBBIN" just aint right.  For all you NON eagle owners to stand up and say to just accept this poster for what he is, aint right either.  How would you like it if someone was telling you fishbowls are ugly, transits are a waste of time and arnt really coaches but just people pushers.  How bout those ugly senicrusers (I love em by the way) you are waisting your time cause you cant get any parts.  Just throwem away and we will join a forum and just bash the **** out of the new owners of the company who are going to make those parts and then tell everybody else they are crybabies and full of crap and they have to get over it.

It says it all in the way he changed his modified tag line

Florida cliff I just couldnt say nothing but here it is' two post in one.

Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss
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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2008, 04:01:59 PM »

I think there are too many people with wwaaaaaayy too thin of skin on this board, buck it up guys, it sounds like a bunch of lillyies ( pansies are tougher).>>>Dan
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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2008, 04:02:39 PM »

WOW  time to put this horse in the barn and close the door   have a great evening
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« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2008, 04:13:17 PM »

At almost 70 years of age and a retired military non com I cannot beleive that You Guys cannot ignore things that annoy You!  My Mom always said sticks and stones, does any remember the rest?  A quote from one of My Grandsons, take a chill pill!  Regards John
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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2008, 04:13:27 PM »

It's my fault guys, I revived this thread from drifting off to page two when nobody had responded. I don't think I was thin skinned, just made an observation. Then dkhersh asked a few pointed questions, and wa la, here we are.

I hope all of the Eagle guys stay on the board, because golly gee, .....  (Moderator edited:  no personal insults allowed)
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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2008, 04:25:59 PM »

This thread is being locked due to members not following the rules of civility.  This includes bashing specific brands of buses as well as other members.  Jack
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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2008, 04:26:41 PM »

My apologies
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2008, 04:29:01 PM »

Hi Folks,

Everybody always complained when I would delete posts with personal attacks in the past. Honestly, I still think it should be handeled that way..

Now that we leave the posts up, lots of members get offended and end up quitting the fourm. Not Good in my book!

Doug, It's time to stop your scarcasm tward EAGLES!!    We all had enough of the RUST Flames!

This also applies to All members.....

Here goes another post LOCKED Down folks.

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