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« on: October 20, 2008, 01:29:48 AM »

Here to the Bus Buff: (You may have already seen these but others may not.)







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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 06:50:11 AM »

Interesting vids.  Thanks for the links.

Here's one that begs the question, Is it a bus or a trackless train?

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 06:53:34 AM »

The best looking bus ever built is still, undeniably, the MCI Courier 96. LOL, Wink

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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 07:11:34 AM »

Nope, I don't like the modern looking buses. Granted, the new Setras and Mans and others look better than the MCI, Prevost, Van Hool offerings that all look the same to me.

Being a long time MCI fan, I don't like any MCI design newer than the D-series. And I'll take a Le Mirage over the new Prevosts any day.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2008, 08:10:27 AM »

Songman; you have to admit the S417 Setra is the most beautiful bus out there for modern buses, and they are planing on entering the coach conversion shell business in 2010 with their DD 15 engine to compete with Prevost which will not have that engine.I know that 1 converter has left the Prevost fold already for Setra   have a great day
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2008, 08:31:03 AM »

Songman; you have to admit the S417 Setra is the most beautiful bus out there for modern buses, and they are planing on entering the coach conversion shell business in 2010 with their DD 15 engine to compete with Prevost which will not have that engine.I know that 1 converter has left the Prevost fold already for Setra   have a great day

 Grin  And I thougght I was the only one who realized this!  Grin  LOL!   Grin  BK   Grin


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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2008, 08:45:24 AM »


 Grin  And I thougght I was the only one who realized this!  Grin  LOL!   Grin  BK   Grin



Hey BK -

Here's something for you to drool over.  Plug this number into eBay's search box:

290268249973

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2008, 08:47:50 AM »

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.....

40 years from now these new buses wil be viewed differently. And most likely we won't be the one "beholding" them.


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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2008, 09:24:14 AM »


 Grin  And I thougght I was the only one who realized this!  Grin  LOL!   Grin  BK   Grin



Hey BK -

Here's something for you to drool over.  Plug this number into eBay's search box:

290268249973

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Hey RJ,
Yes I saw that one the first time it was listed. I had intentions of going up and checking it out! (as a matter of fact Robert and I were on our way)
But dad put his foot down and said NO! Don't even think of wasting ANY company $ even going to look at it because we aren't buying any more "burn outs!" (we did that once!)

So I just drool now! LOL!  Grin  BK  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2008, 09:31:15 AM »

55 years old & the old PD4501 still draws a crowd of people everywhere it goes.

Now, that's classic styling that has stood the test of time . . . .  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2008, 10:42:51 AM »

Kyle

A group of protesters with the local ordinance enforcement in tow are not to be counted as astute admirers!

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2008, 11:08:29 AM »

Kyle

A group of protesters with the local ordinance enforcement in tow are not to be counted as astute admirers!

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 Grin  LOL!  Grin good one Buddydawg! His eyes are so clouded he easily gets confused!   Grin  BK   Grin
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2008, 11:28:24 AM »

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. At least that's when looks the best!  Grin

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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2008, 11:38:36 AM »

Songman; you have to admit the S417 Setra is the most beautiful bus out there for modern buses, and they are planing on entering the coach conversion shell business in 2010 with their DD 15 engine to compete with Prevost which will not have that engine.I know that 1 converter has left the Prevost fold already for Setra   have a great day

Yes, I do like the Setras. We rode these on our recent trip to Egypt. Out of all the modern looking buses, I like the Setra best. But it is distinguishable from all the US buses that are hard to tell apart now.
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2008, 12:24:02 PM »

Setra Presentation, starting with history:



Note: It's also available in high resoluton mode ("High Quality" link below the video player)
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2008, 01:25:36 PM »

I am not sure who the manufacturers in the videos are.  The first one, Starliner, looks really odd to me--sort of like an aerodynamic lizard.  The second is nothing new in aesthetics, but must have some interesting engineering.  The third one, Cityliner, looks reasonable.  I also like that is does not have a tag.  It's hard to do much with improving bus appearance.  You know that saying, "You can put lipstick on a bus...."
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2008, 01:30:47 PM »

Kyle

A group of protesters with the local ordinance enforcement in tow are not to be counted as astute admirers!

 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
They are when they want them.  Shocked  Cool

I've not been anywhere in mine that it was ignored.


BK, you know you'd have a fleet of 'em if you could. . . .
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2008, 01:34:11 PM »

Personally, I like the looks of most of the newer buses better than a lot of the older buses.  My Dina has large curved windshields and has a European look that I like.

Most of the older buses look good if they are in A1 condition, but fewof them have aged well.  I saw a seated Prevost Lemirage this weekend that was completely beat to heck with damaged side panels to boot.  It would probably look really good with straight polished panels.

One advantage of the newer buses is they can be patched up and repainted to look like new a lot easier than polishing stainless or replacing dented stainless/aluminum panels.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2008, 03:56:31 PM »

BK,

I agree, Setra are some of the most beautiful coaches out there!!! We had to go with a MCI because we couldn't afford a Setra Wink Wink Grin Grin Grin (price and parts). Every time I pass a proud Setra (is there any ugly Setras out there? Smiley), I hope that they don't look down on us too much for driving an MCI Cheesy. No really, I have been very pleased with ours and hope for many more good years of driving.

God bless,

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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2008, 06:50:57 PM »

I am not sure who the manufacturers in the videos are.  The first one, Starliner, looks really odd to me--sort of like an aerodynamic lizard.  The second is nothing new in aesthetics, but must have some interesting engineering.  The third one, Cityliner, looks reasonable.  I also like that is does not have a tag.  It's hard to do much with improving bus appearance.  You know that saying, "You can put lipstick on a bus...."


Hey Lin, that second coach is a MegaLiner and all three buses are Neoplan(s); but check this bad boy out by Scania:
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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2008, 07:14:02 PM »

The Europeans are somewhat ahead of the "motor coach -bus" curve than than both the Americas. I was shocked to learn that the worlds largest bus convention(s) are in Turkey, and China respectively.
MCI, and Prevost derived their modern day design pointers form the EU. Even the old faithful Eagle design was derived from Germany (back in the day). That's why I still love the old metal sided buses of all makes here in north America. Just my humble-jumble opinion.
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2008, 08:54:48 PM »

I like not even having a tag.  Two front axles are a step in the wrong direction for me.  I assume all four front wheels steer, and these units can carry amazing amounts of weight.  It's not really for me.  I happen to still like the metal exterior on buses.  It would be interesting to see some modern design with classic stainless.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2008, 05:16:39 AM »

My bus still has a metal exterior.  It just happens to be painted aluminum!
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2008, 05:27:24 AM »


 Yes all two front axles steer and maybe or better if the rear tag was steerable.

A few years back I remember seeing an ad in the motor coach section of the DuPont Registry about some up start company called "World Class Motor Coach". They where soliciting $900K up front to build you what -at the time-, was going to be the biggest American made double decker with quad front steer and a steerable rear tag. They only had computer cad renderings of how it would look.
 
Anybody know what became of that venture, or can elaborate on it please? Thanks for the time.
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« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2008, 06:28:05 PM »

Can anybody help me concerning my  Undecided?
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